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Ted Costas
Expert Film Handler

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From: Hollywood, CA, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 09-26-2002 07:59 PM

If you are in the Los Angeles area on October 5th, 2002, there is a Digital Cinema Event being held at the ETC Digital Cinema Lab on Hollywood Boulevard and Wilcox. It's all day, and I believe they are showing the recent Lucas movie, yes in Digital Cinema, and there are several distinguished panel members, some listed, some not. It should be a hot debate with panel members from all sides of the Digital Cinema political spectrum... Vegas has posted two to one odds that blood will be spilled (I'll be wearing my black suit just in case).

If you are interested: (http://www.hsmpte.org/seminarindex.htm)

If not, well, I'm sure I'll hear a few of those. This is "FILM"-Tech, isn't it?

All the best, Ted

Ted Costas
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John Pytlak
Film God

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posted 09-26-2002 08:35 PM

Way ahead of you Ted.

I posted the registration information for the conference here on August 26, and encouraged people to attend. I just "bumped" it up again.

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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
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posted 09-27-2002 04:02 AM

Welcome back, Ted.

Right?

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Mark Ogden
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Little Falls, N.J.
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posted 09-27-2002 07:57 AM

Not to pull this off topic, but if anyone is travelling to this from a long distance you can double your pleasure that weekend and see the original 3-strip (and recently restored) This is Cinerama at the itself-recently-restored Arclight Cinerama Dome on Sunset Blvd. The Dome features a deeply curved 80ft wide screen, which, in a very controversial move by Pacific Theaters, is a solid sheet instead of the traditional louvered one as originally specified by the developers of Cinerama. It will be interesting to see how bad the cross illumination will be.

Opening October 4th for one week. If you're in LA that weekend, it's a gotta-do.

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Bill Gabel
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posted 09-27-2002 10:11 AM

The location of the ETC Digital Cinema Lab is the former Warner Cinerama Theatre on Hollywood Blvd. . This is the site that opened
"This is Cinerama" in Southern California, 50 years ago.

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John Pytlak
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posted 09-27-2002 10:21 AM

Links to information about the ETC:
http://www.etcenter.org/
http://www.etcenter.org/Downloads/DCL_Specs.pdf

http://www.icce.org/conference_program/etc.htm

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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posted 09-27-2002 01:45 PM

Yea, forget the digital crap unless you're an artifact junkie and go see and hear all the magnificent film based theatres while they are still running real film.
Mark

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Scott Norwood
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posted 09-27-2002 02:31 PM

Film: 1

DLP: 0

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
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posted 09-27-2002 08:13 PM

Digital is better because it's digital. Too bad we can't make "film" a much overhyped and ballyhooed buzzword.

I hope someone asks Rick McCallum and/or George to demonstrate film running over "wires" as Rick said is what happens with film and that's why it gets damaged.

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Michael Schaffer
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Boardwalk Hotel?"

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From: Boston, MA
Registered: Apr 2002

posted 09-28-2002 09:51 AM

What is a louvered screen?
Michael

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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posted 09-28-2002 12:38 PM

"Louvered" refers to the deeply curved "strip" screen that was a signature of Cinerama installations. The screen was made up of narrow elastic strips, each one aligned to reflect light back along the projection axis. This was done to minimize reflected light from washing out picture blacks (e.g. bright area on one side of the screen raising blacks on the other side of the screen).

The ETC (nee Warner's Pacific) and The Dome both had louvered screens in their original Cinerama installations. The ETC is now flat, and The Dome has had a curved one-piece sheet for many years.

Regards,

Paul
SMPTE Hollywood Section
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Frank Angel
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posted 09-28-2002 01:35 PM

Gee, D-Cinema at the Dome. I wonder how D-Cinema would do projecting on that original 80ft curved Cinerama screen. Now THAT would be something to see -- bet you could actually COUNT the ones and zeros!

Frank
I've seen the Light.....and it's Carbon Arc.

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Paul Linfesty
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From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 09-29-2002 03:56 AM

The chief projectionist at the American Cinemateche last night invited anyne with a DLP to come in and try to compare to the new 70mm print of Hello Dolly. He was right, there is no comparison.

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Manny Knowles
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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 09-29-2002 05:09 AM

Did I imagine this or did I actually read the following...?

1. Disney's EL CAPITAN on Hollywood Blvd. is no longer THX because they went with a smaller screen when they introduced their DLP system.

2. Mann's Chinese (just across the street) uses some extreme masking to reduce the screen size when running digital movies.

True or False? I'm sure I read this right here on Film-Tech but I can't find the thread(s).

~Manny (Terror from above.)

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Paul Linfesty
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From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
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posted 09-29-2002 10:49 AM

1. True. The El Capitan is no longer THX certified.

2. False. There MAY be a little masking in, but if so, it's very slight. I saw the "flat" presentation of SIGNS, and it looked pretty close, if any difference at all, to their retgular screen size. The Chinese installed a slightly larger screen when they remodeled last year. At the very MOST, the screen masking is no greater than the size of screen being used for the past 20-25 years.

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