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Andrew McCrea
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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posted 07-08-2005 12:33 PM

Hey Everyone,

How many films being released currently are actually in the DLP format?

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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posted 07-08-2005 01:31 PM

Peruse the lists at Eric Carter's Web Film Release Schedule.

You can also check DLP Cinema What's Playing.

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Mike Heenan
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posted 07-08-2005 02:45 PM

How do they make DLP "videos"? Do they scan an interpositive/negative that the prints are made from, or do they use the digital intermediate that the prints are made from?

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Scott Norwood
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posted 07-08-2005 03:00 PM

The Star Wars Ep. I DLP master was derived from an IP. Not all films use digital intermediates; therefore, at least some DLP masters must be derived from IPs or INs. As I understand it, the process is quite expensive (upwards of $100-150k), which is why I don't see DLP being very helpful for independent/low-budget films. For $150K, one could make ~75 35mm prints from a 35mm negative or a 16mm blowup (~$30k) plus 60 35mm prints. That's more than enough for a decent theatrical release, and those prints can be shown in any theatre in the world. Of course, it would be cheaper to produced a subtitled version or one with a foreign-language soundtrack for DLP.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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posted 07-08-2005 04:22 PM

Here's a list I made based on Eric Carter's Web site.

I'm sure Michael Coate will make additions and corrections.

Digital Projection Releases
1999 June 18
STAR WARS: EPISODE I - THE PHANTOM MENACE

1999 November 19
1999 November 24 (wide)
TOY STORY 2

1999 December 17
BICENTENNIAL MAN

2000 March 10
MISSION TO MARS

2000 May 19
DINOSAUR

2000 June 16
FANTASIA 2000
TITAN AE

2000 July 28
THE PERFECT STORM

2000 October 20
PAY IT FORWARD

2000 November 17
BOUNCE

2000 November 22
102 DALMATIANS

2000 December 08
VERTICAL LIMIT

2000 December 15
THE EMPEROR'S NEW GROOVE

2001 February 16
RECESS: SCHOOL'S OUT

2001 March 30
AKIRA

2001 May 16
2001 May 18 (wide)
SHREK

2001 June 08
2001 June 15 (wide)
2001 August 31 (sub-run)
ATLANTIS: THE LOST EMPIRE

2001 June 29
THE CRIMSON RIVERS

2001 July 11
FINAL FANTASY: THE SPIRITS WITHIN

2001 July 18
JURASSIC PARK III

2001 August 10
OSMOSIS JONES
PLANET OF THE APES

2001 September 28
HEARTS IN ATLANTIS

2001 November 02
2001 December 07 (adds outtakes to presentation)
MONSTERS, INC.

2001 November 16
HARRY POTTER AND THE SORCERER'S STONE

2001 December 07
OCEAN'S ELEVEN

2002 February 15
RETURN TO NEVER LAND

2002 March 15
ICE AGE
SHOWTIME

2002 March 29
PANIC ROOM

2002 April 03
2002 April 05 (LA)
CRUSH

2002 May 16
STAR WARS - EPISODE II: ATTACK OF THE CLONES

2002 June 14
SCOOBY DOO
WINDTALKERS

2002 June 21
LILO & STITCH

2002 August 02
SIGNS

2002 August 07
SPY KIDS 2: THE ISLAND OF LOST DREAMS

2002 August 16
THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH

2002 September 20
THE BANGER SISTERS

2002 September 20
2003 March 28 (re-issue)
SPIRITED AWAY

2002 November 15
HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS
STANDING IN THE SHADOWS OF MOTOWN

2002 November 27
TREASURE PLANET

2003 February 14
DAREDEVIL
THE JUNGLE BOOK 2

2003 February 21
GODS AND GENERALS

2003 March 21
DREAMCATCHER
PIGLET'S BIG MOVIE

2003 May 02
X2: X-MEN UNITED

2003 May 30
FINDING NEMO

2003 July 02
SINBAD: LEGEND OF THE SEVEN SEAS
TERMINATOR 3: RISE OF THE MACHINES

2003 July 09
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL

2003 July 25
SPY KIDS 3D: GAME OVER

2003 September 12
MATCHSTICK MEN
ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO

2003 October 03
CONCERT FOR GEORGE

2003 October 24
2003 November 01 (wide)
BROTHER BEAR

2003 October 29
ALIEN: THE DIRECTOR'S CUT

2003 November 14
LOONEY TUNES BACK IN ACTION

2003 November 14
2004 January 30 (wider)
MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE EARTH

2003 November 26
THE HAUNTED MANSION

2003 December 05
THE LAST SAMURAI

2004 January 16
DISNEY'S TEACHER'S PET

2004 February 06
MIRACLE

2004 March 05
STARSKY & HUTCH

2004 March 26
SCOOBY-DOO 2: MONSTERS UNLEASHED

2004 April 02
HOME ON THE RANGE

2004 May 07
VAN HELSING

2004 May 14
TROY

2004 May 19
SHREK 2

2004 May 28
THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW

2004 July 07
KING ARTHUR

2004 July 16
I, ROBOT

2004 July 23
CATWOMAN

2004 July 30
THE VILLAGE

2004 August 06
COLLATERAL

2004 September 10
THX-1138: THE GEORGE LUCAS DIRECTOR'S CUT

2004 October 01
SHARK TALE

2004 November 05
THE INCREDIBLES

2004 November 10
THE POLAR EXPRESS

2004 November 19
NATIONAL TREASURE

2004 November 24
ALEXANDER

2004 December 10
OCEAN'S TWELVE

2004 December 22
PHANTOM OF THE OPERA

2005 February 18
CONSTANTINE

2005 March 11
ROBOTS

2005 April 01
SIN CITY

2005 April 29
THE HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY

2005 May 19
STAR WARS: EPISODE III: REVENGE OF THE SITH

2005 May 27
MADAGASCAR

Planned
2005 August 19
VALIANT

2005 November 04
CHICKEN LITTLE

Planned undated
ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS
AMERICAN DOG
BATTLE ANGEL
BEE MOVIE
A DAY WITH WILBUR ROBINSON
INDIANA JONES 4
RAPUNZEL UNBRAIDED
SHARK TALE 2
SHREK 3
SHREK 4
TOY STORY 3

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Stephen Furley
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posted 07-09-2005 02:11 AM

quote: Scott Norwood
which is why I don't see DLP being very helpful for independent/low-budget films

Which are just the type of films that the UK Film Council digital scheme are supposed to bring to a wider audience which never gets the chance to see them on 35mm.

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Michael Coate
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posted 07-09-2005 03:18 AM

quote: Jeffry L. Johnson
I'm sure Michael Coate will make additions and corrections.

Two others from 1999 were "An Ideal Husband" and "Tarzan."

Upcoming Digital Cinema releases include "The Island" and "Sky High." But then, "Fantastic 4" and "Herbie: Fully Loaded" were planned and I don't think ever materialized. (Anyone know of any DLP showings of "Fantastic 4"? None in L.A.) And there was some rumbling about "War Of The Worlds" going out in DLP. I guess we can blame George Lucas for hogging up all of the available screens.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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posted 07-09-2005 07:58 AM

Digital Cinema Solutions distributors

quote:
Content Film and Magnolia Pictures
Wendigo

Emerging Pictures
Ballad of Bering Strait

Lions Gate
Shattered Glass
The Cooler
Step Into Liquid
Standing in the Shadows of Motown

Palm Pictures
The Eye

Showtime
The Maldonado Miracle (Shown at Sundance 2003)
Speak (Shown at Sundance 2004)

Sony Picture Classic
Masked and Anonymous (Shown at Sundance 2003)
Masked and Anonymous (Shown in theaters)
Once upon a time in the Midlands
The Cuckoo
Fog of War
Riding Giants (Shown at ShoWest 2004)
Carandiru (Shown at Sundance 2004)
Baadasssss! (Shown at Sundance 2004)

Strand Releasing
Party Monster

Vitagraph
The Revolution will not be Televised
Love Object

Wellspring
Russian Ark

Innovation Film Group (IFG)
A Foreign Affair (shown at Sundance 2003)

Propaganda Films
Southlander

Windline Films
Confessions of a Burning Man

Rubicon Film Productions Ltd
Raising Flagg

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Andrew McCrea
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posted 07-22-2005 01:51 PM

The reason I ask is because: The studios are saying "convert, convert", but what's the point if only a handful of movies are being released in that format anyways?

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Scott Norwood
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posted 07-22-2005 02:48 PM

Who is telling theatres to convert?

I'm sure that the distributors would like to reduce their costs, but it seems that everyone now realizes that there isn't yet a workable business model for wide-scale DLP implementation that is fair to both distributors and exhibitors. Until this happens, and until the file format and distribution media are standardized, I don't think that anyone seriously expects exhibitors to go out and buy DLP hardware.

Of the 100-odd DLP screens in the US, how many were paid for outright by the exhibitor at retal price levels, without some sort of lease deal or promotional pricing? I suspect that the answer is zero. I'd be amazed if it were more than a small handful.

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Bernie Anderson Jr
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posted 07-22-2005 04:46 PM

I'm goning through a Digital Preshow installation in my theatre by Screenvision/Technicolor. This is a network of projectors that work off of a signle server with what they call "Friend" computers at each screen. These projectors have been in now for 2 months and all they do is fail; either they freeze or they fail all together. If this is any sign of how DLP Digital networking is gonna be, keep the crap!

My bet is on something like IMAX. Over this past weekend between Batman and Charlie, IMAX grossed 5 Million over 150 some screens. Mark my words, it is the future.

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Frank Angel
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posted 07-23-2005 07:28 PM

Anyone who has ANY experience with computers knows that the ONE thing they are not is reliable. Period. I use a computer to do one simple, easy task. Play audio content in MP3 format from a hard drive for Music-on-Hold for our telephone system. It craps out at least once a week, sometimes even more. Big window in the middle of the screen says "This program has performed an illegal action and will be terminated." How would you like THAT to show up on your screen in the middle of a movie? An old CD player is more reliable. In fact, computers are the only technology that I know of where we tolerate outragously bad performance. Can you imagine buying a television set or a DVD player or a WASHING MACHINE that would stop in the middle of whatever it was doing and you had to turn it off and "reboot" it to get it going again? It would be boxed up and returned as DEFECTIVE, yet a computer does this on a routine basis and we accept it.

Tell me video projectors are going to be the wave of the future and you might catch my attention (for about 15 seconds), but preface that by saying "and they are going to run on a computer network server," and well.... [fu]

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Michael Coate
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posted 07-31-2005 09:46 PM

In current release:

The Island
Sky High

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John Pytlak
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posted 08-02-2005 01:36 PM

Four US theatres with Kodak 2K Digital Cinema Systems.

Watched "The Island" last week at the Cinemark Tinseltown-16 here in Rochester. The Kodak system is on their largest screen, #9.

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Martin Brooks
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posted 08-03-2005 10:21 PM

OK, John, so how about a technical review? How did it look?

I saw it at the Ziegfeld in NYC. I thought it looked pretty good, except for some closeups where the faces looked liked over-compressed and over saturated Photoshop images, but I don't know if it also looks that way in the 35mm version.

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