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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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Was wondering if any one could do a screen grab and edit upload the Interstellar 15/70 and digital differentiation from IMAX.com. It would be good for future generations to view the marketing differentation (in this rare case) and compare it to the lack of it once Interstellar is out of theaters.

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Buck Wilson
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Brad Miller
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No external links per the rules. That breaks the archive when the external website goes down. They need to be uploaded to the forum please.

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Buck Wilson
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Fair enough. I only did that because of the unfavorable size restrictions and figured it was frowned upon to upload a quantity of pictures like this.(And now I cannot post twice in a row to keep the pictures in a group, because you cannot post more than 8 pictures in one post.)

Don't know why I even bothered, more work than it's worth.

Home page:
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After clicking "Purchase tickets now":
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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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Hi Buck, I appreciate. I think it is important for future generations of movie fans to see how it is marketed differently on the rare occasion.

I would add them myself by I am pretty much always mobile now. So it is difficult for me.

But thanks, hopefully you can put the rest of them up as well

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Buck Wilson
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Was just waiting for someone else to post

After clicking "View 70mm film theaters here":
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An example of clicking one of the individual theater listings:
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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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Buck, any chance you can add the digital part as well?

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Buck Wilson
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This is everything. I can't find anything not already pictured. The most digital is mentioned is in the second screen cap I posted.

Even clicking on a known digital-only theater will provide the same exact results and description as the example posted, mentioning "Interstellar: The IMAX Experience will open on November 5 in select IMAX 70MM film theatres domestically."(last screen cap posted) except, of course, theater address, etc

Clicking on "Read more" just re-directs you back to the second screen cap page

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Brad Miller
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quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
Buck, any chance you can add the digital part as well?
Why? Who gives a shit about Liemax? 1570 is the only reason to consider going to an IMAX room. A superior digital presentation is available at select participating non-IMAX houses.

As I understand it, those are the sites they are expecting to play in 1570, but not all of the equipment has been checked and some was found to not be functional or there was no qualified projectionist available to run it, etc. The list should only be considered as a guide.

Similarly the 35mm and 570 sites are in the same boat. They are sending out people to verify it's not a hack job setup. If the presentation quality isn't up to what it needs to be, no film for you.

So buy your tickets, but don't be too angry if you sit down and get digital or the showing is cancelled. It can and probably will happen.

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Buck Wilson
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Brad, I love you.

And good for them for checking equipment!!

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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Thanks Buck.

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Monte L Fullmer
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I know that the Boise ID Edwards 21 still have their SR equipment upstairs and some of the management team can still operate.

Just been pulled aside for the paired Christie digital usage.

But, wonder if the 15/70 presentation will either be full-frame, or will it be a DMR release.

-Monte

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Sean Weitzel
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Monte, Here is the meat of the technical information. In a nut shell, 60% of the movie is full frame 15/70 and photochemically printed from the 15/65 negative and the parts photographed anamorphically on 35mm were scanned at 6k and DMR for the 15/70 print.

http://www.interstellarmovie.com/formats/

INTERSTELLAR TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

INTERSTELLAR was shot using a combination of 35mm anamorphic film and 65mm 15 perf IMAX FILM. When presented on 70mm IMAX, the sequences shot on IMAX are printed full quality in their native format- the highest quality imaging format ever devised, offering almost ten times the resolution of standard formats, and filling the giant IMAX screens from top to bottom. The 35mm anamorphic sequences have been blown up to fill the IMAX screen side-to-side using a 6k digital DMR process, the highest resolution processing ever used in a feature film presentation. The finished picture switches between the 2.40:1 and 1.43:1 aspect ratios at key dramatic moments in the film. This is combined with a specially made IMAX uncompressed sound mix for the most immersive presentation of the film.

The digital IMAX presentation has been created from 6 and 8k scans of the original film elements, graded specifically for the high contrast IMAX dual-projection system. When presented on digital IMAX, the sequences shot on IMAX will fill the IMAX screens from top to bottom and switch from 2.40:1 to an aspect ratio of up to 1.9:1. It will also carry the uncompressed IMAX sound mix of the film.

When presented on regular 70mm film, the IMAX sequences have been optically reduced to 70mm 5 perf film to produce a grain-free, ultra-high resolution image, cropped top and bottom to fill the wide screen. The 35mm anamorphic sections have been blown up optically. Both processes are photochemical, preserving the original analog color of the imagery and combined in a 2.2:1 widescreen presentation. The sound is carried on a separate Datasat disc to produce state-of-the-art 6-track digital sound.

The 35mm anamorphic prints have been made photochemically, preserving all the rich analog color and high resolution of the original 35mm anamorphic photography. This is combined with new 4k negatives produced from 8k scans of the IMAX original negatives, cropped top and bottom to create a seamless 2.40:1 scope image. The sound is coded on the prints in Dolby SRD for a 6-track digital playback experience in most theatres.

The digital presentation of INTERSTELLAR has been created from 4 and 8k scans of the photochemically- color graded film elements, fine-tuned in the digital realm to maximize the color and contrast attributes of digital projectors, and dust-busted to achieve the cleanest and most stable image presentation possible. The film was mastered in 4k for the highest digital resolution currently available.

The sound on INTERSTELLAR has been specially mixed to maximize the power of the low end frequencies in the main channels as well as in the sub woofer channel. This effect is present is in all available presentations of INTERSTELLAR, all of which have been designed to play back at the volume level designated by the industry at 7 on the Dolby cinema processor.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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Some of the IMAX 15/70 marketing on facebook by IMAX:

A new Interstellar Movie extended trailer that was designed exclusively for IMAX 15 perf/70mm film is now playing at select IMAX institutional theatres! The trailer includes never-before-seen footage of the film in the expanded IMAX 1.43:1 aspect ratio.

List of participating theatres:

IMAX 3D Theatre
Farm Bureau Insurance Lawn at White River State Park
650 W. Washington St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204

Spacedome Theater
US Space and Rocket Center
1 Tranquillity Base
Huntsville, AL 35807

Hackworth IMAX Dome Theatre
The Tech Museum of Innovation
201 South Market Street
San Jose, CA 95113-2008

Science Center of Iowa & Blank IMAX Dome Theater
401 SW Martin Luther King Jr. Pkwy
Des Moines, IA 50309

Tuttleman Omniverse
The Franklin Institute Science Museum
222 N. 20th St.
Philadelphia, PA 19103

Smithsonian Institution (Dulles)
NASM Steve F. Udvar-Hazy Center
IMAX Theatre
14390 Air & Space Museum Parkway
Chantilly, VA 20151

Mosimax – Imax Dome
4801 East Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL 33617-2099

The Ozarks Discovery Imax Theater
3562 Shepherd of the Hills Expressway
Branson, MO 65616

The Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum
1800 North Congress Avenue
Austin, TX 78701

Lockheed Martin IMAX Theater
National Air and Space Museum, Smithsonian Institution - Smithsonian
6th St. & Independence Ave S.W.
Washington, D.C. 20560

JOHNSON IMAX 3D Theater
MRC 186
Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History
10th & Constitution Ave. NW
West Loading Dock (Washington Monument side)
Washington, DC 20560

IMAX Theater
Pacific Science Center
200 Second Avenue North
Seattle, WA 98109

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Brad Miller
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Sean, that makes it sound like there will not be dts on the 35mm prints, which seems silly since clearly they are making timecode and discs for 70mm.

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