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Topic: SEPTEMBER STORM 3D Review
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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 04-16-2017 10:46 AM
quote: Terry Monohan
...but who knows maybe they did a fake stereo thing on the disk...
When we played this title at one of our theaters last year, the first version of the DCP we received had what appeared (on the AP20's display) to be the same mono track triplicated on the left, center and right channels. I played a clip that had mixed dialogue, music and effects, three times, monitoring each of the channels individually, and this confirmed my suspicion: it was the same mono mix copied onto all three stage channels.
A tech check was requested by the distributor in advance of the show, and at it I suggested that it would be a good idea to remake the DCP with the audio on the center channel only, to prevent it from sounding echoey and customers sitting toward the sides of the house struggling to make out the dialogue. He said that he would do this, but I didn't work the night of the actual show, and so don't know if he did or not.
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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
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posted 06-04-2017 05:38 PM
quote: Frank Angel
...and given that I love stereo so much more than mono (mono = sound with no space), I am willing to give any stereo converted soundtrack a try.
Do you love color movies, and if so, would you be willing to give Ted Turner's infamous colorized versions of King Kong and Citizen Kane a try?
A mono soundtrack achieves a sense of space by the relative levels at which its various component sources are mixed. That is more difficult to do well, because you don't have the option of using the distracting gimmick of hitting your viewers with sound from behind them or to the side of them. Their ears are focused on one sound source in the room, and what goes into the mix that comes through that one channel is all you have to play with.
I can't even begin to imagine, say, the pursuing dog pack in I Am a Fugitive From a Chain Gang, the silence followed by crickets chirping after Charles Vanel blows up the rock in The Wages of Fear or Peter Lorre whistling in M after they'd been artificially stereo-ized, even if it had been done by someone knowledgeable and careful enough to make a very good guess at how these would have been mixed for multi-channel playback if that technology had been around at the time.
There's a reason why some top name directors, Hitchcock and Woody Allen being the two best known examples, wouldn't or won't use stereo at all.
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Allan Young
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Posts: 125
From: EGHAM, Surrey UK
Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 06-05-2017 08:31 AM
By coincidence, just yesterday I was reading an interview with Leon Vitali in which he explained why Kubrick tended to favour mono sound.
"what he understood was if they were going into cinemas, they may or may not have decent stereo sound. And you know even right up to Full Metal Jacket, I'll tell you because we checked about 300 cinemas in the U.K. He had people checking cinemas over here in the U.S. when we released Full Metal Jacket. And even by 1987, some cinemas hadn't even looked at their sound systems for like ten years. What Stanley understood was that if you made a stereo track and the sound system was no good, you've lost half your sound. It sounds terrible. His notion was better good mono than bad stereo.
That was the whole thing about why he did his films with mono mixes right up until Eyes Wide Shut. Because by Eyes Wide Shut, you had your multiplexes. The majority of cinemas, sound wasn't an important thing because the public understands. They like sound now. Ten years ago or twelve years ago, fifteen years ago or twenty years ago, sound, even for filmmakers, it was the last consideration. You know? It just needed a soundtrack.
The most important thing, and I cannot stress this too much. The most important thing for Stanley, when it came to his theatrical releases was this: That everywhere, whether you watched the film in Hong Kong or Singapore or Buenos Aires or New York or London, everyone should have the opportunity of seeing the best quality that you could possibly see on film."
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