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Phil Blake
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Been trying to convert a laser to DVD via capture card in PC . I am experiencing very bad quality results.

What is the best quality format to save in AVI or MPG2 for conversion to DVD?

Has anyone tried this with good results ?

Phil

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Monte L Fullmer
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Try a Pinnacle/Dazzle capturing device since you're doing analog transfer to digital and you need such a device to aid for the capture.

(Course,I cheated: I have a DVD recorder and connected the two via RCA cabling. Laserdisc copies on DVD via this way turned out great!)

Good luck - Monte

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Darryl Spicer
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
Try a Pinnacle/Dazzle capturing device since you're doing analog transfer to digital and you need such a device to aid for the capture.


The only problem with that choice is there is the possibility that the audio will be out of sync with the picture the larger the file gets.

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Sean Weitzel
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What software are you using? Can you describe what "poor results" means?

I would recommend capturing to an uncompressed AVI (presuming you have enough hard drive space) then go back and encode an MPG-2 compliant file for authoring to DVD.

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Joe Redifer
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Just get a recordable DVD player unless you want to edit the side changes to make them absolutely seamless.

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Bruce Hansen
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I have done the LD to stand alone DVD recorder dub with very good results. LDs never had copy guard. There is info in the vertical blanking that the player needs to play the disc, so macro-vision could not be put onto a LD (I think that this is the reason that LD was "killed off" so fast when DVD came out, even though it took a while before DVD finaly took off). If you preview where the side change is, you can pause the DVD recorder ar the right place.

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Phil Blake
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well i do have a really good DVD recorder but the problem is the DVD recorder is PAL only and the Laser disc I want to convert is NTSC , so i had to go back to the PC to do the transfer.

I have pinnacle 10 which resulted in the final capture being very much out of sync. I also have AVS video capture suite which works quite well but i can only make a mpg2 file at 352 x 240 which is crappy.
when i take it up to 720 x 480 it bombs out telling me my P4 3.4Gig processor cannot handle the workload.

The original laser disc is of a very high quality so I am quite surprised the copying is not turning out well.

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Sean Weitzel
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P4 3.4 should be waay more than enough to capture an uncompressed AVI, it should even work compressing mpg2 on the fly. Have you tried 720X480 AVI with no compression? PM me and I might have a piece of software that may help you.
What is the title of the laserdisc if you don't mind my asking?

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Jeremy Weigel
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I used a Leadtek PVR 2000 with their PVR sofware to transfer about 30 VHS(4 to 6 hr long) home videos to DVD with no problems with lip-sync. It has its own hardware encoder so it uses very little CPU power. Their software has many different encoding settings to choose from. I used their "DVD(Hardware) setting. It is also a very good TV tuner as it is in real-time and it also changed channels very quickly. I use it to watch/record cable TV.

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Joe Redifer
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Why do so many Windows programs lose "lip sync" as the file gets larger? I simply do not understand this. 5 minutes of video and 5 minutes of audio should match up perfectly. Why is it slowing one of those aspects down? I see this A LOT on Youtube videos.

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Sean Weitzel
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Short answer: dropped frames
Long answer: look at this link:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/guides/video/capture-dropped-frames.htm

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Monte L Fullmer
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Excellent link .. thx and it all makes sense on how to make excellent video.

-Monte

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Steve Guttag
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Hmmm doesn't this work on the "Shrinky Dink" principle? Just pop the Laserdisc in the oven...it then will shrink down to a DVD!

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Phil Blake
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quote: Sean Weitzel
What is the title of the laserdisc if you don't mind my asking?
the title is Roaring Glory war birds , it is a documentary of restored ww2 aircraft that are still flying today, really great footage in surround.

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Geena Phillips
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Also, Phil, make sure you use the Composite cable to hook the player up (PAL has those, right?), NOT the S-Video.

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