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Christopher Duvall
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 02-28-2002 05:57 PM      Profile for Christopher Duvall   Email Christopher Duvall   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
OK techno-geeks, I need some more insight on this. I have just purchased a Digital Camcorder, firewire card, DVD burning software, video editing software and I am ready to make family DVD's...except for the burner. I have the feeling that the R/W burners are the ones that will stick around but I need more info. Can someone point me to somewhere or give me info about each type of burner?

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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 - posted 02-28-2002 06:23 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Get DVD-R or DVD-RW (Not DVD+RW!!!). These seem to yeild the most compatibility and cheapest prices. It will probably end up being the standard. DVD-RAM is cool but they won't play on regular DVD players. They usually come in the removable cases that surround the discs.

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Jerry Chase
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Margate, FL, USA
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 - posted 02-28-2002 09:05 PM      Profile for Jerry Chase   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"I have just purchased a Digital Camcorder"

Traitor! Where is your Super 8 camera?

Jerry, remembering the hours of editing home movies, laying on of sound stripe, and disgusting amounts of expensive film left in the editing bags.

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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Registered: May 99


 - posted 02-28-2002 09:08 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Super 8mm anamorphic shot on Kodak's Kodachrome 40 reversal stock. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm good!

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Bob Maar
(Maar stands for Maartini)


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From: New York City & Newport, RI
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 - posted 02-28-2002 09:18 PM      Profile for Bob Maar   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Maar   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Chris...

I double dare you to print who you think is a techno-geek.

I noticed and made a record of the first three to respond.

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Jerry Chase
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Margate, FL, USA
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 - posted 02-28-2002 09:40 PM      Profile for Jerry Chase   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
First 3 or first 4?


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Christopher Duvall
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Denver, CO
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 - posted 03-01-2002 05:43 AM      Profile for Christopher Duvall   Email Christopher Duvall   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bob, those that post to this site are probably techno-geeks...myself included. It's an affectionate term. Let the flames begin...


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Bob Maar
(Maar stands for Maartini)


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 - posted 03-01-2002 06:54 AM      Profile for Bob Maar   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Maar   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
or should I have said seven.

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 03-01-2002 07:43 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Super-8 lives!:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/film.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/history.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/tips.shtml

It's still very popular for students learning filmmaking, and finds much use in making Music Videos. KODAK VISION 200T Color Negative Film is even available in Super-8!

How many video formats have been successful for almost 40 years?

(BTW, 35mm film is over a century "new", and more prints were made last year than any time in history!).
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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion


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Michael Barry
Jedi Master Film Handler

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 - posted 03-01-2002 08:14 AM      Profile for Michael Barry   Email Michael Barry   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree about Super-8, especially K-40!

The last few times I used it, I shot at 24fps (instead of the more customary 18fps for this format) and thanks to the excellent Schneider optics on my hand-me-down Nizo camera, the results were spectacular. When I had the footage telecined at professional sites, the operators always commented how sharp the material was for super-8 and how it looked more like 16MM. (Photography is one of the things I do OK with!).


Unfortunately, on my last time out, my poor Nizo camera ground to a halt (or slowed down remarkably) during several shots, meaning it's probably nearing the end of its useful life (unless I find somewhere that can repair it). Of course, not many video cameras last 25 years or more...nor do many have picture quality like this!



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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

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 - posted 03-01-2002 06:09 PM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
After not being able to get the HP DVD+RW drive to work at all, I ended up with the Pioneer DVD-RW. I have not had much time to play with it for video, but I have burned a data disc successfully a time or two.

FWIW, I plan on getting a Power Mac for my video work.


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Leo Enticknap
Film God

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From: Loma Linda, CA
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 - posted 03-04-2002 02:33 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Out of interest, what are the prices like for this sort of kit in the US (and anywhere else in the world for that matter)? Consumer, set-top-box DVD-R/RW video recorders were launched last autumn in the UK at around UK£1,000 (around US$1,350 I'd guess) and the price has not reduced significantly since then. Internal, PC-based drives were costing around that this time last year, but have now dropped to a typical retail price of £400-500. So the price gap between DVD and CD burners is closing pretty quickly, for computer-based drives at least.

Is the same market trend happening elsewhere?

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Christopher Duvall
Jedi Master Film Handler

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 - posted 03-04-2002 05:52 AM      Profile for Christopher Duvall   Email Christopher Duvall   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have seen the prices for DVD burners (various types) starting around $500 now. I will be paying very close attention when they hit between $200-$300. I am assuming the standardization will be starting to show.


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Leo Enticknap
Film God

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 - posted 03-04-2002 06:11 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Substituting the $ for £, I was thinking exactly the same thing.

The cost of the media is an issue too: known-brand CD-Rs can be had for £0.50-0.70 (around $1) but DVD-Rs still cost around £6-7 ($10). So with all factors taken into account the storage cost per megabyte still works out as significantly cheaper with CDs. When this eventually starts to change I can see myself handing over some hard-earned cash at the computer shop...

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