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Leo Enticknap
Film God

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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000


 - posted 05-14-2002 06:50 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Click here for story...

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
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 - posted 05-14-2002 01:03 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The entertainment industry is in a word, stupid. They always have been. Anyone care to argue with that?

This digital recorder does the same thing as a VCR. With videotape people can share files such as pay-per-view events with non-subscribers. With the VCR people can skip commercials.

Everyone wants to control the world.

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Bill Hallsworth
Film Handler

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From: Loganville, GA, USA
Registered: May 2002


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Don't worry, I'm sure the CA legislature will find that these machines cause cancer or something and ban them.

Anyone with a VCR or a DVD burner can do the same thing...why bother trying to limit another recording medium? And why do it in such a way that it will piss off a lot of people?

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Jim Ziegler
Jedi Master Film Handler

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This order is clearly unconstitutional. The government could not, without a warrent, collect such information. Nor can the government attempt to skirt the Constitution by requiring a civilian to collect such information. This order will be struck down in Federal court.

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Dennis Atkinson
Expert Film Handler

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From: Birch Run Michigan
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 - posted 05-14-2002 04:43 PM      Profile for Dennis Atkinson   Author's Homepage   Email Dennis Atkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
These are some of the same studios that paid to have the copyright laws
extended / changed so Mickey Mouse would not become public domain so soon. We'll see, it's the best government money can buy

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Houston, TX, USA
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 - posted 05-14-2002 07:38 PM      Profile for James R. Hammonds, Jr   Email James R. Hammonds, Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
<<Everyone wants to control the world.>>

Joe, I think you mean "Everybody wants to rule the world."

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Michael Gonzalez
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Grand Island , NE USA
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 - posted 05-14-2002 10:47 PM      Profile for Michael Gonzalez   Email Michael Gonzalez   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well legally it's not quite unconstitutional because it will not be the government who is collecting and using the information instead it will be a third party. So until there was a case where the information was used to prosecute someone for piracy there would be no legal remedy short of violating a provision in a privicy law that I am unaware of.

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