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Michael Brown
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 - posted 06-02-2002 05:13 PM      Profile for Michael Brown   Email Michael Brown   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This is posted on the trivia page for The Big Lebowski at the Internet Movie Database www.imdb.com

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In the TV version of the movie, there are many edited words, seeing as the word "fuck" is used over 200 times in the movie, but the most noticible change is when John Goodman smashes the car and screams "You see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?" In the TV version he says "You see what happens when you have fun with a stranger in the Alps?"
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I just had to post that. That is my official favourite quote for the moment "You see what happens when you have fun with a stranger in the Alps?"

ROFLMAO!!


Edit : It's supposed to say USA in the thread title


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Dave Bird
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 - posted 06-02-2002 05:21 PM      Profile for Dave Bird   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Bird   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The uncut version ran on the CBC last Saturday I think it was. After 9pm, I believe they can run whatever they want. Don't know if it's a law, or "self-regulated". I don't remember any parental warning. This is one movie that would make no sense dubbed...

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Chad Souder
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As far as I know, there is nothing governing things that go on television at any time, whether it be nudity, profanity, or whatever. They're strictly self-regulated. The FCC only deals with radio, I think. What time of day did Schindler's List run a few years back?

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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 - posted 06-03-2002 01:38 AM      Profile for James R. Hammonds, Jr   Email James R. Hammonds, Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The FCC controls television, too.
And the walkie talkies at work.
And remote controlled cars.
Anything dealing with the airwaves.

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Jacob Huber
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 - posted 06-03-2002 04:45 AM      Profile for Jacob Huber   Email Jacob Huber   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Comedy Central has done some pretty funny redubs of Half-Baked. Some of my favorites include:
Thurgood "Yeah, one more thing. Remember that stuff? We used to eat a whole lot of it back in the day? What was it... oh yeah, pussy." Changing pussy to peanut butter.
and
Cocaine Addict: "Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke. Now that's an addiction. You ever suck some dick for marijuana?" Changing dick to toe.


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Peter Kerchinsky
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 - posted 06-03-2002 05:32 AM      Profile for Peter Kerchinsky   Email Peter Kerchinsky   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Good morning all from the Emerald City:
I can never fiqure out why network TV here in the good ol' US of A bothers to run films like GOODFELLAS, SCARFACE and the like. They are so badly butchered, they are not even worth watching after we've seen them theatrically. Makes no sense to me, other than of course, MONEY. Who do they think they're kidding!
And what's with AMC on cable (American Movie Classics)? I was watching an obvious R rated western the other night titled THE LAST HARD MEN with NRA favorite Charlton Heston along with James Coburn and an entire rape screen with some pretty "nasty" dialog was entirely deleted. All gone. Made no sense at all.
In my mind, if they are that rough don't show em if you want to keep your channel "clean" for the home folks. Uggggggggggg.
AMC also had showings of TRUE GRIT recently where in the final scenes John Wayne was charging Robert Duvall and his buddies saying something like "pull your reigns you........." when in the original theatrical release Wayne said "pull your reigns you son-of-a-bitch".
I've givn up watching any of the so-called "newer releases" on AMC entirely. Why are we paying for cable TV and still getting "edited prints".
Sorry, but this stupidity makes no sense to me.
Good morning Brad.

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Chad Souder
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"courts have affirmed the Commission’s ban on the [television]broadcast of “material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory activities or organs.” "

My fault, sorry

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Thomas Procyk
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 - posted 06-04-2002 10:25 PM      Profile for Thomas Procyk   Email Thomas Procyk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
From what I understand, according to my Fundamentals of Broadcasting class is that only broadcast TV is regulated by the FCC. Basic cable stations are not. On USA for example, they sometimes blank-out or substitute "tits" or "penis" or even "bitch" while Comedy Central usually lets those go by un-edited. The basic cable networks are actually "regulated" by the sponsors. They usually have the last word as to what is "ok" in the shows they are sponsoring.

"Shit" is not allowed on broadcast TV, and most basic-cable stations will edit it out. For the South Park episode ("It hits the fan") where they said Shit 186 times or so, the idea had to be run by the sponsors for approval. They simply asked if they could say "Shit" in an episode and the sponsors agreed, with no negotiations over how many times they were allowed to say it. That episode has since not been re-run, AFAIK.

While on the topic of South Park and TV edits, I watched a showing of BASEketball on USA. Now, half of the humor in this film is either swearing, sexual humor, or just gross-out stuff. Some scenes were completely missing, (most of the "psych-outs") others zoomed in on a portion of the picture so you couldn't see what was on part of the screen, (the scene where Coop and Reemer are going through a drawer in what they thought was Brittney's room, sniffing panties and the like -- picture zooms in on Brittney's face and gets REALLY grainy) and the infamous over-dubbing that doesn't even sound like the person's voice.

My FAVORITE TV edit was when they showed Mallrats on broadcast TV (what were they thinking?!?) And they changed "All it took was a phatty-bo-batty BLUNT!" to "All it took was a big Karate punch!"

Oh and a slight correction on Jacob's post... they changed Pussy to Puddin' in Half-baked. It sounds even funnier that way.

=TMP=


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Jesse Skeen
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It is possible to show "bad stuff" on broadcast TV- back in the 80's we had independent TV stations (which have all become affiliates of the Fox, WB or UPN networks ) that would run R-rated movies uncut, complete with swearing and nudity- I still have tapes of some of these I recorded off the air. They would have "Viewer Discretion Advised" warnings after every commercial break, but they eventually stopped because they got a lot of complaints.

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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 - posted 06-05-2002 08:16 PM      Profile for James R. Hammonds, Jr   Email James R. Hammonds, Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Was this during the safe harbor hours?
I believe safe harbor fall between 10 PM and 6 AM.

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Jesse Skeen
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 - posted 06-06-2002 03:07 PM      Profile for Jesse Skeen   Email Jesse Skeen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
No, this was during prime time! Before being taken over by bug-infested crap from the "new" networks, most independent stations would show a movie in the 8-10 slot (longer movies would start at 7 or 7:30 so they'd be over in time for the news at 10.) I even saw a few movies on KTXL (channel 40) in Sacramento shown on weekend afternoons with nudity and cussing intact! That station would usually mute out "The F-Word" though, but I taped "Repo Man" from another station in town that ran that with all hundred or so utterances of that word left in.
Back then I thought by the year 2000 we'd be seeing porn on broadcast TV, but it seems like everyone's suddenly gotten more uptight about content now.
I noticed around the time I gave up on watching movies on TV that more and more films were coming pre-packaged with edits and some commercial spots already sold; previously they were running the full theatrical versions (the old stuff was on 16mm, don't know what they used for the newer movies.)


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