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Peter Berrett
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 - posted 10-06-2002 07:21 AM      Profile for Peter Berrett   Author's Homepage   Email Peter Berrett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi all

I decided this week to have another look at the Dirty Harry series of films. I'll post reviews on each of them as I work my way through the series.

It's a shame that the transfer to video was not very good - I had lots of colour fade to the point that the print almost looked cartoonish at times.

Of all the Harry films I feel this is the most complete and well put together. The starting scenes tie neatly in with the closing scenes and the classic dialogue ending in 'Do you feel lucky...' must be one of Hollywood's greatest meances if not the greatest.

Eastwood carries the role of suburban police cowboy well and the film is thought provoking about whether the ends do justify the means of not.

Andrew Robinson gives a chilling performance as the psychotic killer and deserves a large part of the credit, along with Eastwood, for the success of the film.

I'm giving this a rating of 95%. Yes, there are flaws (eg gratuitous nudity) but the acting and plot completely overshadow any minor flaws.

It's amazing to think that Frank Sinatra was originally slated for this role.

cheers Peter


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Bill Gabel
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Warner has given the "Dirty Harry" series on DVD, very good treatment.
They remastered the picture and remixed the sound. Even Harry would
like it. I watched "Harry" & "Magnum" last weekend and they looked
so good. A few years ago we had a screening of a IB "Dirty Harry"
at the Hollywood Pacific Theatre and at the Fairfax Theatre.
Harry is one of my favorite movies.

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Peter Berrett
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Were the colours natural ie did the film look like it was taken yesterday?

cheers Peter

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Peter Berrett
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Hi again

Out of pure luck I stumbled across the fact that Magnum Force would be screening again on Tempo (a French satellite channel) in our region so I decided to give this film another look. As I expected the film was dubbed in French. Fortunately I speak a little French.

What I did not expect to find was a restored print in full natural color and neatly letterboxed on the screen. This meant that I could see all the film pretty much as it would have been displayed when it first was released. I was amazed at the color - the film looked as though it was filmed in the last month or so.

I am now firmly of the opinion that it is critical to present a film with a good print as washed out colors and fading means that much of the subtlety and illusion of a film is lost.

I can't help wondering how the film was restored. If the film was filmed on Eastman Kodak stock in the early seventies I would have thought that there would be no good prints left of the film? Can someone suggest or explain to me how they would have managed to get a print looking this good?

cheers Peter

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Bill Gabel
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Yes, the colors looked great.

Magnum Force had a very good DP Frank Stanley.

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John Pytlak
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Today, most video transfers are made from pre-print elements. Fading is much slower than the early (pre-1982) print films, and the studios usually store pre-print materials under better conditions than release prints. Even if there is moderate fading from improper storage, film-to-video transfers can use modern color correction technology to optimize color and tone scale.

Many filmed television shows from the 1960's and 1970's (e.g. "Star Trek", "Hogan's Heros", "Bonanza", etc.) look much better now than they did when they were syndicated on well-used and poorly stored 16mm prints. Likewise, modern video transfers made on telecines like the Spirit are likely to be very superior to transfers made from the SAME films decades ago:
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Peter Berrett
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Thanks John

It seems we live in fortunate times. It is now possible through a variety of means, to see older films such as Magnum Force in great color and in full aspect ratio. 10-15 years ago one would have to have found a theatre with a good print to see a film such as this as it originally was intended.

It really impressed me how a good print added so much more detail. For example in the first few scenes I looked at Harry's car and noticed the shine on the paintwork. These little details get lost with fade.

Most importantly though, with natural color the illusion of the film is much stronger.

cheers Peter


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Dave Williams
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Dirty harry is really the breakout role for Clint. The "go ahead punk, make my day" line really got things going for him.

Anyone recall who the "punk" was? Whatever happened to that actor. Didn't he end up in a star trek series or something?

This is just a fun movie.

Dave

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Bobby Henderson
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I have the "Eastwood Collection" edition of "Dirty Harry" on DVD. There's not much in the way of extras and the disc is double sided, with single layers on each side. One side holds the 16x9 enhanced 2.35:1 widescreen version and the other side is pan and scan full-screen (or what I like to call "foolscreen.") Is there another more deluxe version of "Dirty Harry" available? Some Eastwood films like "Unforgiven" has received new treatments (with "Unforgiven" getting a 2-disc SE).

I'm just wondering about a better version being available, because I wasn't too impressed with the image quality on the disc. It is decent. But some of the night photography and other bits to it look a bit flat.

Character actor, Andrew Robinson has had a fairly prolific film career. Yes, he played a scale-covered fellow on Star Trek: Deep Space 9 for while. Robinson also had a memorable appearance in the original "Hellraiser" film.

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David Stambaugh
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Dredging up this old topic. I just watched Dirty Harry on Blu-ray. I'm happy to say the movie still holds up very well. The transfer is pretty good, probably true to the original visual elements. The night scenes are dark and grainy, just as they were originally. Sometimes you can't see everything that's going on they're so dark. That's as I remember it in the theater. The audio is spiffed up 5.1 TrueHD and pretty good for its vintage.

Warner's BD packaging is really nice. It's actually a book with a disc holder inside the back cover, has lots of photos and such, profiles on the actors, etc. Very nicely done. [beer]

So it struck me while watching this that Andrew Robinson's crazed performance as Scorpio could be the prototype for Heath Ledger's Joker in The Dark Knight. Anybody see that parallel besides me? Maybe Harry Callahan is Batman.

I'm just saying. [Big Grin]

Today's makers of cop movies could learn a thing or two from watching Dirty Harry. Like you don't have to turn every action scene into a dizzying series of blurry quick-cut closeups. Notice how much of this movie is filmed as wide shots and how scenes take their time to unfold.

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Bobby Henderson
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1970s style shot framing and editing schemes are pretty different from today's rapid-fire edit shaky-cam spasm school of film-making.

I'm not sure I see the parallels between Andy Robinson's "Scorpio" character and that of Heath Ledger's take on Joker. Honestly, I think there was more going on with the Joker character in The Dark Knight -although I've always been disturbed by Scorpio's determination to undermine Harry Callahan by paying some scary dude in a ramshackle building to beat the living shit out of his face. Everyone laughs at Callahan's response, "everyone knows I didn't do that...because he looks too damned good."

I'm glad to hear at least one person likes Warner Bros. "digi-book" Blu-ray packaging. Lots of Blu-ray adopters have been whining like little girls over WB's choice. They would prefer to have every Blu-ray disc container on their entertainment shelf look alike rather than have a unique package for certain titles that had some additional bonus material that could not be included in the usual plastic packaging. I, for one, am all for Warner Bros. releasing certain movies in the digi-book package. They've done this for other titles like The Shawshank Redemption, Poltergeist, How The West Was Won and Bonnie and Clyde. The upcoming 10th Anniversary Edition of The Matrix will be featured in digi-book packaging as well.

On the video transfer for the Blu-ray disc, I've read some pretty decent reviews. Most say visible grain is present throughout. That doesn't bother me. Image detail can still be reasonably sharp when grain is present in the image. The worse thing to do is running all that DNR bullshit that blurs and waxes out the image.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I haven't owned a VHS player in over 10 years now! I do have the Blue Ray disk and it looks pretty darn good. They did as good as they could with the really dark scenes which amazingly do hold up well. Audio is still mono but must have been cleaned up or came from the oridinal mag master. Clint directed the suicide/jump sequence which may have been his directorial debut.

Also be sure to see/get Bullett(1968). Its a bit older film but even better looking and sounding. Both films show off the characteristic Technicolor "Look" of that era.

Mark

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Bobby Henderson
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I've seen the Blu-ray for Bullitt in Sam's Club selling for only $10.50. I picked up The Searchers for the same price. They had other movies like A Clockwork Orange and The Road Warrior for the same low price too. Wal-Mart has a few $10 Blu-ray discs, such as the first three Rambo movies, Resevoir Dogs and Crash. Although I've heard that Crash has a pretty bad video transfer.

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