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Christopher Spiwak
Film Handler

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From: Utica, NY, USA
Registered: May 2009


 - posted 03-19-2012 10:57 AM      Profile for Christopher Spiwak   Author's Homepage   Email Christopher Spiwak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Still relatively new to 35mm projection and haven't come across this yet. I just started building the print of Rampart, which was a new uncut print. Reel 4 started off with a slightly sticky, pinkish hue down the center of the print. A couple minutes into the reel, a chunk just fell apart. I've already called for a replacement reel, but what is this called and what caused it?

http://www.spiwakmusic.com/film/film1.jpg
http://www.spiwakmusic.com/film/film2.jpg

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Victor Liorentas
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: london ontario canada
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Wow ! If that's a new print then quality control at the lab has sunk down to the Titanic!If it's from another theater then they have simply ruined it with poor handling times 10!

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Christopher Spiwak
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I'm pretty sure the whole print was new - 2 of the reels were tails out and the whole print was uncut (no splices at the check frames and printed tape sealing the heads/tails).

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Victor Liorentas
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I think the roll of film stock may have been that way before it was even printed and somehow it got past the labs quality control.
Did it come from Deluxe labs?

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Christopher Spiwak
Film Handler

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I think so.

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John Wilson
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Christopher, please take note of Rule #4 in the Site Rules section.

>>RULE #4: Posting links off-site.
Film-Tech makes every possible attempt to preserve its archive as best as possible so that old information will still be around for everyone to enjoy for many years to come. For this reason, we have a very strict policy about linking to off-site information.<<

Here are the photos being spoken of in this thread.

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Christopher Spiwak
Film Handler

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Thanks for helping with posting those. Here are two better quality photos, uploaded and inserted correctly. Mods - please delete the links in my original post, it won't let me edit it anymore.

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The pink "splotchiness" runs for about 15 minutes of the reel.

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Dominic Espinosa
Phenomenal Film Handler

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Unless I'm mistaken it would appear the damage occured after printing. It should be blurred and severely discolored if the damage occured to the raw film stock.

Sounds like a shitty QC operator just shoving it out the door to cover his/her tracks to me...

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Brent Francis
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I bet the emulsion didn't dry properly when it got processed, causing the sticky emulsion surface and discolouration.

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