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Timothy B Davis
Film Handler

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From: Hinckley, MN, USA
Registered: Dec 2006


 - posted 01-16-2012 05:57 PM      Profile for Timothy B Davis   Email Timothy B Davis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have one 35mm projector that always makes the pictures look washed out. It looks like a smudged lens or something but they're clean. The colors aren't bright and it seems like it needs a contrast adjustment to make the picture look more defined. It isn't bad enough to have customers complain but I'd like to get it figured out and fixed. All our 35mm projectors are Strong with Strong lamphouses. Both flat and scope look the same. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Tim

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Jack Theakston
Master Film Handler

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From: New York, USA
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 - posted 01-16-2012 06:13 PM      Profile for Jack Theakston   Email Jack Theakston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How many hours on the bulb? What make lenses?

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Jeremy Weigel
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From: Edmond, OK, USA
Registered: Mar 2007


 - posted 01-16-2012 06:52 PM      Profile for Jeremy Weigel   Email Jeremy Weigel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Could be an over focused bulb. Do new prints look good at first then progressively get worse or do they look this way with the pass run through?

Burnt lenses? When light is projected through the lens does the lens appear "cloudy"?

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Timothy B Davis
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The bulb is an Osram 2000k with about 4k hours on it and it's amps are just under 70. The lens is a 65mm scope Schneider/Kreuznach lens. Flat lens is the same brand.
The lens looks clean looking at the ends.
By "Over focused" do you mean I might have it too bright and should back it away from the reflector?

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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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 - posted 01-16-2012 09:34 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think that projector is running out of Technicolor.

You need to send one of your U.B.s down to the hardware store to pick up a spare can but then you had better put an order in for a couple of cases as soon as possible.

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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
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quote: Timothy B Davis
The bulb is an Osram 2000k with about 4k hours on it
Right there is the big one: Osram in a STRONG console ... should use Christies.

Christies and STRONG make a better couple.

Bulb is tired and has lost its luminance output. Should be changed 150% over warranty where 4K hours is milking the crap out of it. Bulb light output is only good for the first 500 hrs then they gradually start losing it.

quote: Randy Stankey
is running out of Technicolor.

...lol...'bout as bad as going "snipe" hunting...and "DAMN!", you can get "U.B's" to believe anything (tell them to check on that person in the "family bathroom" just to make sure that he aint dead)....

Did a service call on a theatre last year that complained on 'washed out' colors while in 'scope .. inside coating on the front element of the prime lens was totally backed to a crisp.

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Timothy B Davis
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 - posted 01-16-2012 10:42 PM      Profile for Timothy B Davis   Email Timothy B Davis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jeremy, they look the same right away. The lens doesn't appear cloudy. Thanks, Tim

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Victor Liorentas
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From: london ontario canada
Registered: May 2009


 - posted 01-16-2012 11:29 PM      Profile for Victor Liorentas   Email Victor Liorentas   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Has anyone been using WD-40 near this projector?

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Louis Bornwasser
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From: prospect ky usa
Registered: Mar 2005


 - posted 01-17-2012 12:38 AM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
1. Swap lens with a good projector.

2. Look at reflector coating, is it dull?

3. Remove porthole glass and test.

4. I agree that Osram does not like the switcher rectifier. 4k hours is about 150% of warranty (2400 hours). I am assuming that the bulb is an XBO-2000w/hxl, not the "cheaper" Osram.

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Monte L Fullmer
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+1 on the porthole glass ... Simplexes, if they're leaky ones, loves to spray an ultra fine mist of oil on the glass when the oil hits the main drive belt or the flywheel.

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