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Author Topic: Christie Platter Take Up Question Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 09-09-2011 11:12 AM                        OK, I now manager a smaller independant theatre that currently is running 35mm with all Christie Platters. I went to move "The Help" this morning and the print was very loose. A disaster almost occured. I seem to recall that there is a trick to running the print, the last show before you move it, to run the print tighter. Do I skip a roller or something? Does anyone know what I am talking about? Thanks.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 퍼항시, 경상푹도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 09-09-2011 12:08 PM                     Are you sure it's a takeup issue? Because it's a possibility that it's due to improper threading...  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 09-09-2011 01:00 PM                     Doing that roller skip is a STRONG trick on the "yo-yo" to wind the prints up tight on the ring. Called the "Z" thread - the way the film looks as it's going the rollers on the "yo-yo" - intead of the "W".  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-09-2011 04:42 PM                        Please do not call it a "yo yo". That upsets me very much and causes IBS. Anyway, how is the print now? If you slide it part way off the deck (not enough for a need to grab onto it) is it pretty tight? How about the print that is now playing in the auditorium this one came from? If the looseness followed the print, it is likely you have some perf or edge damage. You can't really see it and it will run fine, but it won't wrap well at all. This sometimes happened at my place with Kelmar failsafes because people can't thread them properly to save their lives with the cue detector on the inboard side despite my instructions on how to do so.  |  IP: Logged Frank Cox Film God Posts: 2234 From: Melville Saskatchewan Canada Registered: Apr 2011 posted 09-09-2011 04:53 PM                        What is the proper name for that part, anyway? I always heard it referred to as the "dancer".  |  IP: Logged Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 09-09-2011 05:28 PM                     Tension Sensor  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 09-09-2011 06:08 PM                     Both correct. Dancer rollers are part of a tension maintenance system. They have them in printing too. Never heard it called a yo-yo, but I've known a few people who called it "The W Loop," which is a little more descriptive. I knew right away what that was supposed to refer to. I'm with Joe on the sprocket damage theory. I used to love my Christie platters because the wind was always so nice.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 09-09-2011 06:30 PM                     (sorry on the "yo-yo" nickname, for I picked that up from some FT members on occasion) I've always called it "the Trombone" - which comes from my Drive-In, LP-270 days with MANN. Just that it has a shorter slide...  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 09-09-2011 10:21 PM                     It was always the "takeup elevator" to me, but that came from my SPECO days.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-09-2011 11:17 PM                     I grew up on DITMCO (SPECO) and we always called it the yo-yo...I have also heard the term "Elevator" and "Shuttle."  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 09-10-2011 11:51 AM                     Whoa. Shuttle. That's a new one. I've heard all the other names for it mentioned here at one point or another. When I was taught, we called it the "elevator," and that's what I've always called it. Some slang terms bother the crap out of me; that one doesn't, I guess because it seems to be widely accepted slang. I think the proper name, however, is takeup assembly. On any platter, you have a payout assembly and a takeup assembly.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-10-2011 02:22 PM                     I almost forgot..."Trolly" is another one.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-10-2011 08:41 PM                        I will accept "take-up elevator". I will even accept "W loop" (even though it is not a loop). I always referred to it as the variac because that is what it is connected directly to. It is short, very easy to say and it's not similar to other words, so when I ask "how is the variac threaded" or "how close is the variac to the top/bottom etc" people know exactly what I am talking about (assuming I trained them). But when I hear people call it a "yo yo" it's almost insulting, as if the platter is a toy.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-10-2011 09:45 PM                     I have a bigger problem with people calling the "centerfeed" a "brain." And as for Variac...the Variac does not move up/down...not all platters even use a Variac (SPECO LP-280, Strong DMC, SCDC). As for yo-yo...well most platter are indeed toys and ill conceived. -Steve  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-10-2011 11:10 PM                        Steve I think it is time for you to retire and collect stamps.  |  IP: Logged

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