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Author Topic: Pec-12 Photographic Emulsion Cleaner Howard Zinman Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Jul 2011 posted 08-08-2011 07:54 PM                     Hi Folks! First post! Long time lurker, first time poster. I was wondering if the good people here have any experience with the product Pec-12? I seldom see it mentioned among the other film cleaners. Their Pec pads seem to be of decent quality, too. Here is a link to a site with more info: http://www.climaxdigital.com/pec12.html I've tried filmrenew, but I found it irritated my nose & throat too much. I'd love to use filmguard, but I don't have a kelmar yet. Thanks!  |  IP: Logged David E. Nedrow Master Film Handler Posts: 368 From: Columbus, OH, USA Registered: Oct 2008 posted 08-09-2011 07:22 PM                        Howard, You don't need a Kelmar cleaner to use Filmguard. I'm assuming you've got some type of pad setup you're using, or maybe just lintless cloth and hands? Those aren't ideal, but can still be used to clean with Filmguard. It sounds like you've cleaned without a Kelmar using other liquid cleaners. No difference for Filmguard. -David  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 08-09-2011 08:29 PM                     From the description there is one big difference between FG and Pec 12. FG definitely leaves an oily residue which is desirable for use in projection and apparently Pec 12 does not. I've received prints from sources which specifically requested that no oily cleaners be applied. Pec 12 seems like a spot cleaner rather than something to be applied to the entire print.  |  IP: Logged Howard Zinman Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Jul 2011 posted 08-09-2011 08:56 PM                     Hi Guys! Yes, I've cleaned prints by hand, but I was under the impression that Filmguard is best applied with a Kelmar. I would like to get a Kelmar to put on my rewind bench, but I'm not sure how to go about mounting the cleaner to my bench. I've got a hollywood power rewind. Bill - If I can ask, what cleaners do you use for an entire print? Filmguard? Thanks! Howard  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-10-2011 01:52 AM                     Howard, the prices on used Kelmar cleaners are really cheap these days. They can easily be had for $200 or less. It is worth it.  |  IP: Logged Howard Zinman Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Jul 2011 posted 08-10-2011 10:39 AM                     Hi Brad! I have a line on a cheap kelmar, but I don't know how to mount it to my table. I wish you'd make more mounting brackets for rewind tables. Thanks, Howard  |  IP: Logged

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