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Alan Gilbertson
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From: Carpentersville Il 60110
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Bill has been paid..


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Brad Miller
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You can add two more to this list.

#1 Ron Purtee and company at Cinema Products International (CPI). Is there any manufacuter this company hasn't ripped off yet? These guys have the lowest morals I've ever seen, right down to bottling up Wal-Mart automotive oil in containers labeled "Century oil", etc. They also have a knock-off product to FilmGuard that they concocted in under 2 weeks after I booted them from being a dealer for failure to not pay their bills. The product is known to damage film over the long haul (meaning a print you use it on today may end up getting you a bill for the cost of the print down the road when that print gets rented out to another theater). What's really sad is they will sell it to you as "FilmGuard" and claim it is the exact same ingredients, then I get the call from the theater panicked and angry about the product that damaged their film because they think it is mine, but upon closer evaluation of the bottle and seller, it is NOT actual FilmGuard. It doesn't take a chemist to figure out that they are not the same product by a long shot. Beware of everything these guys sell, as it is all second rate and the goal of the company appears to screw people. I have invoices 3 years old this company still has not paid. From what I understand, they owe anywhere from $10,000 to a few hundred thousand bucks to pretty much every manufacturer.

#2 Brian Vita of CSS Inc. out of Peabody MS. This guy has a known history of not paying his bills either. I have invoices 2 years old he still has not paid.

I am permanently "topping" this thread, as this sort of info needs to be known.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Gee, There are several MAnufacturers I could think of to place in this catagory......

Mark

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Monte L Fullmer
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..and those CPI splicers are the worst I've ever seen and worked with....Cheap is the key word here with them.

Funny to mention that when I do see a bottle of CPI oil, it's sorta dark than what actual machine oil would look like..and much thicker....

-Monte

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Brad Miller
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Mark, if you have a known deadbeat, list them. Do make SURE that before you post that they are absolutely in the wrong though and have been given plenty of time to make good.

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Rick Long Jr
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Sean McKinnon
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Brad,

MS is the abbreviation I think for mississippi. Tha breveation for the Comonwealth of Massachusetts is MA (or Mass) So it should be Peabody, Ma above.

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Steven J Hart
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My theater has been serviced by Mr. Vita from CSS inc. since 1998. My experience working with Brian Vita - professional, courteous & knowledgable sales and service.
Steve Hart

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Steven J Hart
My theater has been serviced by Mr. Vita from CSS inc. since 1998.
I sat with Brain Vita at a table one night at a Showorst Dinner 15 to 18 years ago. I woldn't exactly say he was the friendliest person I ever ran into.... [Frown] . With so many small mom and pop theatres still operating in his own northeastern area I also would have to wonder why a dealer would have to go so far to service so little...... [Confused] .

Mark

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Phil Hill
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Also, just because a company/someone services and treats their "customers" well, it doesn't necessarily follow that they do the same with their vendors/suppliers.

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Steven J Hart
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quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
With so many small mom and pop theatres still operating in his own northeastern area I also would have to wonder why a dealer would have to go so far to service so little......
I think Brian Vita services about a dozen theaters in ND and MN on his annual trip. He got started in this area when MTS in Minneapolis went out of business. As far as I know there is no one (within easy driving distance) offering service to our area.

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Brad Miller
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Steven,

The nicest guy in the world who purchases items from manufacturers, sells them to his customers, and then never pays the manufacturer for the items is a deadbeat any way you slice it.

Should I try and reword this again, or do you understand how the concept works?

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Mike Blakesley
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I'm no lawyer, but isn't this thread just begging for a defamation lawsuit?

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Frank Dubrois
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I dunno. If someone has invoices and proof that these people didn't pay and have had plenty of time to do so, then calling a spade, a spade seems ok enough to me. I'm actually enjoying this thread.

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Brad Miller
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Yup I've already checked with my attorney on this. The deadbeats outed on this thread will remain listed here until such time that they make good on their debt.

Just do note that for anyone adding to this, do make sure you have proof of the debt.

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