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Author Topic: Strong Ignitor Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 09-04-2010 01:41 PM                     I have a strong AC ignitor but I don't know which lamphouse it's for. I checked the manuals but the part number I have isn't close to any of them. The part number is barely readable. The first 2 number may not be correct, but the rest are. Anyone recognize it? Part #31943000  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 09-04-2010 01:58 PM                     Dude, it took a 2 second search on Ballantynes website. ignitor . Call them on Tuesday and I'm sure they can help you with it.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 09-04-2010 02:07 PM                     quote: Price: $1954.10  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 09-04-2010 02:10 PM                     Yeah, but that doesn't help me. What lamphouse and or console is it for? That's my question.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 09-04-2010 04:29 PM                        Good question. Even the regular Lumex carries a 60000 series number. I expect it is quite old like the X-16. (No manual to check it out.) Louis  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 09-05-2010 12:54 AM                     Sounds like one of those white cased, POS DC igniters .. and that price it about right for one of them new. If it's white, it was for the newer (94 and up) STRONG X-90 consoles where it was mounted behind the plenum. If it's black, then it's an AC igniter (far more reliable) that was mounted in the earlier X-90 consoles on the inside wall behind the reflector. But, the white ones can be rebuilt ... -Monte  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 09-05-2010 12:55 PM                     I agree with the Grand Pooh-Bah's post... I think the folks at Wrong are on the wacky weed and not sharing with the rest of us....I cannot fathom how they come up with nearly $2,000 for a box with MAYBE $175 worth of parts in it.... Hell, I just paid those schmucks $16 for a 4" piece of 1/8" aluminum tubing (the oil tube for a Simplex intermittant oil catcher) and the rat bastards didn't include the fitting and bass ferrule. Sad thing is it seems that their prices are continuing to go up even on projector parts, and they also no longer have/make a LOT of parts anymore.  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-05-2010 01:23 PM                     Buy an Irem one  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 09-05-2010 08:26 PM                        The AC type Stong igniters are easily and inexpensively repaired. I do it all of the time. Louis  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-06-2010 12:37 AM                     Agreed. Unless the Tesla coil has melted everything in there is replaceable but it's worth more than $175.00. Just try and find a 10kV transformer for much less than that, and the capacitors aren't cheap either.  |  IP: Logged Eric Robinson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 538 From: Santa Rosa, CA Registered: Jan 2005 posted 09-07-2010 10:20 PM                     quote: Louis Bornwasser easily and inexpensively repaired How do you bench test them Louis?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-07-2010 11:06 PM                     I don't know about Louis but we put them in a Super Lume-X (they just drop in the top) and light up a lamp. Pretty simple test, actually. Then again, there are only a handful of parts in a Strong AC igniter. The biggest failure we see in the Strong AC igniter system is in the R10 series relay...to prolong its life, tie the second contact (Strong brings out the contacts on solder tabs on the auto strike board) to the first contacts. It will likely not fail, ever. In many ways, the DC igniter fixes a non-existent problem. Who asked for it? And yet, most manufacturers have gone with them. I was mildly amused when I started putting in Christie CP2000-SBs...to hear the familiar "zap" of the IREM AC igniter found in Xetron lamphouses/consoles throughout the years.  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 09-10-2010 08:10 AM                     quote: Tony Bandiera Jr they also no longer have/make a LOT of parts anymore. Tony, I found that out trying to order some Megasysytems parts recently. I couldn't get a quote for some parts because they would have to order the materials and make them. There are only a couple dozen Mega projectors out there and I can understand the reasoning there. I think I bought every Mega part they had in stock.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 09-10-2010 11:00 AM                        Steve: we test them the same way. Louis  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 09-14-2010 09:59 AM                     From the Megasystems manual: quote: igniter capacitors have drained for (10) minutes quote: The Strong DC Pulse Igniter stores energy in its capacitors after the lamphouse has been de-energized. To prevent shock, this energy can be discharged by placing the blade of an insulated-handle screwdriver across the metal end caps of the spark gap. I made the mistake of opening up a DC ignitor shortly after 10 minutes and got my ass kicked It felt like somebody hit me in the chest with a sledgehammer, I fell back against the wall, slumped down and sat for a moment, then told my interpreter that it was time to go back to my hotel. Not sure how many volts went through my body, but it hurt like hell.  |  IP: Logged

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