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Author Topic: Does SONY still make and market SDDS players? Tom Petrov Five Guys Lover Posts: 1121 From: El Paso, TX Registered: Jan 2003 posted 08-16-2010 12:49 AM                    Just wondering if anyone knows if SONY still markets and makes and SDDS player? We used to have one back in the day but I haven't seen one in years I know the film prints have the sound.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Weigel Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1062 From: Edmond, OK, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 08-16-2010 01:16 AM                     This announcement is already a few years old.  |  IP: Logged Ian Parfrey Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1049 From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E Registered: Feb 2009 posted 08-16-2010 01:30 AM                     Jeremy. That linky, she no worky. ..which pretty well sums up SONY'S "commitment" to product support. But to answer the original question, Sony no longer manufacture the SDDS equipment, soundheads, &tc. and if the lack of SDDS tracks on local prints (AUS) are any indicator then unless there is a legacy issue that you need to address specifically, then go Dolby Digital. DTS sounds better, but the disc issue can be a major PITB.  |  IP: Logged Dennis M Dow Jr Expert Film Handler Posts: 141 From: Bloomfield NJ USA Registered: Oct 2003 posted 08-16-2010 09:19 AM                       quote: Ian Parfrey That linky, she no worky. I had no trouble with the link.  |  IP: Logged Brent Francis Film Handler Posts: 84 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Nov 2008 posted 08-16-2010 11:18 AM                        Any idea when that announcement came out?  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 퍼항시, 경상푹도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 08-16-2010 11:27 AM                     The only reason major releases are still coming out with SDDS is because AMC hasn't gone all-digital yet and even they may just steal Dolby Digital readers from their few places closing that have them to swap out for those that are staying 35mm in the mean time.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Weigel Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1062 From: Edmond, OK, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 08-16-2010 11:53 AM                     I believe it came out in 2004/2005.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 08-16-2010 02:09 PM                        sdds: gone and forgotten. . . . at least I'm trying to forget! Louis  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-16-2010 02:25 PM                     I removed the last DFPR 2000 from a 100 screen chain two weeks ago. They are stacked like chordwood in their warehouse. No reasonable offers refused! They still have six DFPR 3000 systems running along just fine. The 3000's will be kept as you can feed in an auxillery source... ala D-Cinema D to A converter. Does anyone here know how to modify a 2000 processor to be able to take a 6.1 Aux input?? There's got to be a convenient point to hack into the audio board in those things... anyone???  |  IP: Logged Marin Zorica Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 671 From: Biograd na Moru, Croatia Registered: May 2003 posted 08-17-2010 04:11 AM                     Mark, you asked me that some time ago.....and I think answer is no for 2000 units. On 2000 units after processing and error corection of signal from reader, that is routed to DSP board which is doeing B chain and so, after that is feed to D/A converter board APR and to main output. There is no way you could just "feed" audio signal like that to chain, or to DSP board. As for aux inputs on 2000, there is no use of them as they are just bypass via relay to main output. As I mentioned couple of times, still 3000 unit is great gear, first it does optical pretty good, and it has two AUX inputs as well for D cinema today.  |  IP: Logged Ian Parfrey Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1049 From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E Registered: Feb 2009 posted 08-17-2010 04:31 AM                     Jeremy. Apologies, the link woks fine. Could have been Chrome playing up.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 08-17-2010 10:58 AM                     At this point it may be academic, but I would think SDDS would be the BEST digital sound available (except DTS which has the simple problem of the DVDs getting lost), due to it having double redundancy and a far larger physical area than Dolby.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 08-17-2010 12:22 PM                     One would think so, but Sony screwed up big time by doing one major thing wrong: both tracks are in the same time relationship, not offset so if one side is damaged (or at splices/missing frames) you lose the data from BOTH tracks. Also they got stuck with the highest-wear area of the film. That's why they earned the nickname System Dumps During Show. One positive thing I can say about SDDS..the EQ's and overall B-Chain of those units was excellent and had great sound quality! I just installed a bunch of Sony DSP-1000's, and they are interesting to say the least. This was a rush job and I cannot go into details here, but it was slam 'em in, do a quick "A" chain and go. Other than no real facility to connect a 'scope or RTA for "A" chain, they seemed to do a good job.  |  IP: Logged Marin Zorica Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 671 From: Biograd na Moru, Croatia Registered: May 2003 posted 08-17-2010 01:49 PM                     This would be interesting to have tracks in different offset, but then sound wouldn't be good as it is, because both are used to get more data stored on film, and we do talk on 2,2MBits/sec which is not so easy to do, on other hand dolby has 320KBits/sec which is I think comparable to 128K mp3 recording (on each channel). Nice you pointed DCP1000, also great unit and it can be still used for D cinema, and thing that I MOST like on it, when doing some special venue show, festivals and so, you can put it up to 8 AUX input board and 8 projector/non sync board...  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-17-2010 02:14 PM                     quote: Tony Bandiera Jr One would think so, but Sony screwed up big time by doing one major thing wrong: both tracks are in the same time relationship, not offset so if one side is damaged (or at splices/missing frames) you lose the data from BOTH tracks. Come on Tony...if you are going to slam something, at least get your facts straight. The two tracks are indeed offset from each other! I don't have the offset handy but it is pretty easy to demonstrate. Put a piece of tape across the film (clear) and run the software and run the error test. When the tape runs through, they will not jump at the same time...I believe "P" will jump first. Since both P and S carry the center channel in an uncompressed format, the offset ensures that it takes a dual failure for a protracted period to drop center channel, ever. While it is fun to put up the different names of SDDS...and they were mostly earned...at its end, it was a reasonably reliable system. Those that we have in operation still are tracking fine. The AFI/Silver, which often runs "previously enjoyed" prints...if they are SDDS can and do run them...with rarely, if ever an SDDS problem. Note, the AFI/Silver has the rare but coveted DFP-D2500s...known in the booth as the "best damn 8-channel VU meter for that is what they mostly do for non-SDDS films). Steve  |  IP: Logged

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