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Author Topic: Eiki 6100's need help getting parts Jon Byler Film Handler Posts: 7 From: Opelika, AL, USA Registered: Feb 2010 posted 06-11-2010 09:41 PM                     Hi, I have a pair of Eiki 6100's that need a few parts and I was wondering If someone can tell me where to get a manual and parts list for one of these? I have a few rotten o-ring belts, but otherwise the machines look to be in good shape. I am also not 100% sure how to run these, as I have only dealt with table top machines in the past. also, if anyone has any advice about things that often go wrong with these machines that I should look out for, please let me know. Thanks in advance, jon  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-12-2010 07:18 AM                        There is a manual for this in the "manuals" section on this site. I have not seen a parts manual, however. Try KMR Electronics for parts. They have been helpful to me in the past. Eiki may have some as well, but dealing with them tends to be painful.  |  IP: Logged Jeff Taylor Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 601 From: Chatham, NJ/East Hampton, NY Registered: Apr 2000 posted 06-12-2010 09:16 AM                     Sadly KMR is out of business--ICECO supposedly bought their inventory of parts. People have reported good results with the two Richards who hang around 16mmfilmtalk--Richard Burgess in the DC area (he used to be an Eiki dealer and goes under the moniker RBMultiMedia). You can also try Richard Patchett in Royal Oak Michigan. He has a website rcsclassic16mm.com. Both can order whatever parts they don't have in stock. Burgess also rebuilds the Eiki switcher supplies. I don't have his phone or email, but if you register at 16mmfilmtalk you can pm him through the forum, or take a shot with the northern Virginia phonebooks. Good luck.  |  IP: Logged Tom Sauter Expert Film Handler Posts: 163 From: Buffalo, NY, USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 06-13-2010 08:43 AM                        Eiki no longer provides parts or support for any 16mm projectors. These projectors do put a nice image on the screen, but there are some recurring problems: 1) The main control board often fails 2) The audio preamplifier/amplifiers often fail 3) The focus mechanism breaks the first time you forget to unlock it 4) The claw pulldown mechanism, if equipped, must be properly adjusted or you'll trash your film 5) The DC leads to the lamphouse are exposed to casual human contact on the non-operating side of the machine The good part is many mechanical parts are interchangeable with the Eiki portable models, most notably the EX-4000 version, which can be often had on ebay or 16mmfilmtalk. Its pretty easy to bypass the whole relay system and run things manually, and to bypass the audio board right into a cinema processor/mixer.  |  IP: Logged Jon Byler Film Handler Posts: 7 From: Opelika, AL, USA Registered: Feb 2010 posted 06-13-2010 10:43 PM                     Thanks much for the info, I will do a little more looking around based on it, and hopefully get something closer to working. best, jon  |  IP: Logged Hugh McCullough Expert Film Handler Posts: 147 From: Old Coulsdon, Surrey, UK Registered: Jan 2003 posted 06-14-2010 05:27 AM                        I have had one of these projectors for about four years, and so far have found it to betrouble free. The only problem that I have had, and it was my fault, was to accidentally press the red inching button when the machine was rewinding. This action blew all the fuses, and a relay. So beware. I have obtained the correct drive belts from a firm in Northern Ireland. I believe that they will ship overseas. Their web address is www.projectorservicesni.com  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 06-14-2010 04:14 PM                     For parts etc. try Roberts Film Service, they're in Montreal so if you Google them select the English version of the site.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 06-14-2010 04:19 PM                     I serviced a few of these machines for UC Irvine. The belts are common O-rings, don't waste money buying them from anywhere other than a bearing shop. IIRC they were only a few bucks each, and are a common size. The control boards are a very expensive joke, hope you never have to replace one. Otherwise the machines are pretty good.  |  IP: Logged Jeff Taylor Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 601 From: Chatham, NJ/East Hampton, NY Registered: Apr 2000 posted 06-15-2010 09:11 AM                     I've used Grainger for those poly o rings on another Eiki projector which the factory no longer supported. They have a website and will ship if you're not near one of their branches.  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 06-15-2010 10:51 AM                     The electronics in Eiki's except for the lamp power supply seems to be complete shit.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-15-2010 11:17 AM                        I would agree with Bill's assessment. The mechanics are fine, however. I have used 5/32" round urethane o-rings from Mcmaster-Carr as replacements for OEM round belts in portable Eikis with success. They last longer and don't turn to goo over time. That said, if you have money, sell the Eiki and get the Kinoton FP-38E (a much, much better machine in every respect).  |  IP: Logged Jon Byler Film Handler Posts: 7 From: Opelika, AL, USA Registered: Feb 2010 posted 06-15-2010 11:04 PM                     Thanks much for the info, I will do a little more looking around based on it, and hopefully get something closer to working. best, jon  |  IP: Logged Jon Byler Film Handler Posts: 7 From: Opelika, AL, USA Registered: Feb 2010 posted 06-16-2010 01:16 PM                     somehow got a double post, and couldn't reply properly... I was thinking of doing the same thing on the O-rings (mcmaster carr). the other belts (toothed) seem fine. I just powered up and everything works so far - helps to read RTFM all the way through. First film played well, but my hand as a brake to keep the upper spool from unrolling is a bit of a pain (also have now way to rewind it now ) but hopefully I will have the o-rings tomorrow or the next day. now I just need to see about a wider angle lens than the 50MM so I can get a bigger picture with less distance and find somewhere to keep and use these two beasts. they are much nicer than my elmo 16-cl that I have been using the past few years. Thanks much for the info! best, jon  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-16-2010 01:33 PM                        Watch out for the rewind function on these. If you hit "stop" when the film has rewound, a brake will engage on the feed reel. With most of these machines, it engages too hard and will cinch the film. If you must rewind on these machines, I recommend just turning off the master power switch when the film is rewound (assuming that the lamp is cool), which will allow the reel to coast to a gradual stop. The lenses are standard Eiki mount. They show up on Ebay from time to time.  |  IP: Logged Tom Sauter Expert Film Handler Posts: 163 From: Buffalo, NY, USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 06-16-2010 01:59 PM                        quote: Scott Norwood I recommend just turning off the master power switch when the film is rewound (assuming that the lamp is cool), which will allow the reel to coast to a gradual stop Heh - and allow 6000' of film to unwind itself on the floor  |  IP: Logged

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