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John Wilson
Film God

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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 03-28-2010 04:46 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Has anyone tried having vinegared prints transferred via a Flying Spot machine such as a Cintel? What were the results?

I'd imagine without the intermittent movement it could be done pretty well...albeit perhaps at a slower rate.

BTW, I'm not talking features here...just (very) old tags and ads.

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Jack Theakston
Master Film Handler

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From: New York, USA
Registered: Sep 2007


 - posted 03-28-2010 06:21 PM      Profile for Jack Theakston   Email Jack Theakston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Depends on how bad it is, but there are a number of different systems that handle warped film that I've used. Usually there's a tension control and shrinkage gauge.

In the case of something short and a print, I'd have it transferred to an IN and then transfer that. You will have more control over the focus and timing issues by printing it first.

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Richard P. May
Expert Film Handler

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From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: Jan 2006


 - posted 03-29-2010 09:46 AM      Profile for Richard P. May   Email Richard P. May   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jack, your recommendation is very good, but really pricey. An average full length feature could cost around $15,000 to have a proper internegative made from a print, and then it probably wouldn't be really good. Prints, as I'm sure you know, aren't made for this purpose, and come out pretty contrasty.
Also, the sound would need to be transferred separately.
Just because a print has some vinegar, there's no reason it can't be telecine'd successfully. If it's so far gone it is badly warped, that's another story.

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Jack Theakston
Master Film Handler

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Dick, you're right, although I think it's just a couple of trailers he's interested in doing. If it's not too warped, then yeah, a telecine off the print should be sufficient.

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