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Sean McKinnon
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I have in IREM N3 power supply that is exhibiting symptoms of high AC ripple. My plan is to replace all 6 diodes and the output capacitor (c7 on the diagram). Is this a good starting point? Someone suggested I consider the RA board as a trouble spot as well, is this suggestion correct?

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Phil Hill
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Having done a shitload of dual projector 570 & 870 3D installs, I usually used the IREM N3's cuz one can easily adjust for equal left-eye and right-eye screen brightness via the hand wheel.

BUTT! They are basically a shitty PS cuz of the HIGH RIPPLE. I always had to use the auxiliary filter choke accessory to control it....you might look into that.

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Sean McKinnon
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I will check that out Phil but this issue just started and it is a 2 machine changeover set-up and the other machine isn't showing the same slight strobing. I should add it is connected to a Super 80 on a simplex 1040 with a three blade shutter. We are running 4k lamps @ 140 Amperes.

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Steve Guttag
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If you are really getting ripple (and the lamp will show it on the anode), I would definitely change the Caps (Irem normally stacks several smaller caps). If you have N3 and not N3Xs...then you will likely find 4 caps forming the main filter with another cap used for boost. In the past 7-years, I've had 2 or three shoot their cookies in Irem N3s.

I agree that the Aux filter is a good thing to have in the Irems...the N3-150 and above come with it, standard.

Steve

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Louis Bornwasser
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IREMs are well known for ripple which is normally not harmful in that design.

I have never changed out an IREM capacitor, although I have in alomst every other brand.

What I do find in IREM is that the 6 diodes must absolutely match or you will get the sympton you describe. (I never changed all six in my life until I found how touchy this is in IREM.) Louis

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Sam D. Chavez
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I have had a capacitor failure with this model, with me in the room.

Lots of white smoke, and amazingly, a picture was still on the screen when the dust settled.

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Sean McKinnon
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What I am getting is a very slight pulsing. This was after installing a new lamp, I tried the old lamp and it is still there. It is really not that noticeable but I want to rectify it before it gets worse. I really suspect it is a diode issue I just figured I should cover my bases and switch out the cap as well.

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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quote:
I want to rectify it before it gets worse.
Now that's funny. [Big Grin]

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Sean McKinnon
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[Razz]

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