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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
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This is the burning question. We are an independent and have installed one digital so far. In order to obtain flexability with the coming logjam of 3D releases, we are going to install Technicolor 3D in one of our other houses this coming week. Less cost to do so at the current time.

Wondering how many other folks are doing the same thing. Anyone have a handle on how the Technicolor installs are going?

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Joe Redifer
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I know of a local guy who is doing 6 T3D installs. It will take him over 3 weeks.

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Jim Cassedy
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I get new screen this week.
I'll be upgrading lamphouse & Technicolor techs will
be doing final check/acceptance next week, if all goes
as planned. (This is at a "film only" house)

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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
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Jim- That's interesting. What kind of upgrade are you doing?

The house where we are installing our 3D is boarderline for a 2K lamp. I'm replacing the collet in our Highlighter II lamphouse to accommodate a 3K. Want to have the best light possible.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Am doing one the end of the month just in time for "Clash" and if it works well I will be doing 6 7 more. For the price of one Master Image 3-D unit you can easily do many Technicolor systems! Not all silver screens are the same! I recommend that anyone installing this system use screens that are approved by DCI for 3-D. Then in the future when digital does take over you can still use the screen.

John,
If you can go to a 4K lamp the film 3-D image will blow your digital image away!

Mark

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Julio Roberto
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Rumor goes Technicolor had ordered 1000 units and they had to up this to 1200 already and they haven't even seriously launched outside the USA yet.

With around 7000 digital 3D installations worldwide (about 4000 in the USA), to put 1200 units out there in a matter of months, almost all of them in the US, is significant.

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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
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Mark-

It wouldn't take much to blow our digital image away. We were underspeced in that house to begin with.

I can always use our spare 4K plus power supply to upgrade if the 3K doesn't do the job.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Disney has publicly stated that once 500 units are in the field they too will embrace it... Looks like they now have to live up to heir word...

The 1000 units ordered is very reminiscent of the era that DTS emerged. They had exactly 1000 units ready for Jurassic park! And they way under estimated the number of 6 track units people would want...

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Frank Angel
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So all new 3D releases will have T3D film prints available (other than pesky Disney)?

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Steve Guttag
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Fox was the other notable holdout

Steve

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Mark J. Marshall
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Anyone know of any going in around the Philly area?

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Jim Cassedy
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quote: John T. Hendrickson, Jr
Jim- That's interesting. What kind of upgrade are you doing?
In our particular case, it was intitally recommended that the existing lamphouse (an XH-4000 with a TeknaLight Hi Output upgrade & 2K blub) be "upsized" to 3K. This would have required making some minor changes to the lamphouse to accommodate the larger bulb.

But that lamphouse had been extensively modified by another tech and had a number of other 'issues' I won't go in to here, so it looks like now we will just replace the entire lamphouse with a new one.

I've been in Phoenix all week, but I'll get the final word and begin work on that this week when I get back to San Francisco.

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Louis Bornwasser
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My first Technicolor 3D house has a possibility (with the silver screen) of 110 ft/lamberts! (modded Christie CH-20)

I will have to REDUCE power, if I use a 2K lamp.

btw: several remanufactured Super Lumex in stock as well as hard-to-get reflectors and SA's guaranteed to meet spec.

byw: no one said that Fox/Disney wouldn't release via Tech3D. What was said is that they have not as yet signed the contract. Not the same thing. Maybe on a pix-by-pix basis? Louis

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Steve Guttag
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No Louis it is not the same thing...but...

If your house does good family business...not having Disney signed up is a HUGE factor on obtaining the process.

Steve

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Frank Angel
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Can anyone come up with a rational reason why these two wouldn't release T3D prints? What's the advantage to them? Seems to me, refusing to utilize screens that otherewise could sell tickets is clearly irrational. Except of course if as I suspect, they have really been using 3D to force theatres to convert to digital. T3D basically thwarts that agenda and turns it on its ear. Especially if, as some have verified, that T3D looks every bit as good and even better than digital 3D.

On the other hand, who knows what Technicolor is demanding in terms of licensing fees. Also, studios were never all that keen on any system that required them to double inventory.

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