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Carsten Kurz
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 - posted 02-18-2010 04:39 PM      Profile for Carsten Kurz   Email Carsten Kurz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There is rumour that the CP65 mute/fadeout time can be modified (probably on CAT NO 443) by changing a resistor or capacitor. Does anyone have detailed info on this?

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Christos Mitsakis
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 - posted 02-19-2010 12:30 PM      Profile for Christos Mitsakis   Email Christos Mitsakis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
On Cat243 its the R34 resistor value that controls the mute fade time. It should be the same resistor on cat443. It has been developed from cat243 and I don't think they changed that part.

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Carsten Kurz
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 - posted 02-22-2010 06:41 AM      Profile for Carsten Kurz   Email Carsten Kurz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks - I'm going to check this out.

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Carsten Kurz
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I found R34 on CAT443, but on first sight it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the Mute Timing. I will have to have a closer look at the circuit, though. Does anyone know how the Muting is accomplished on these cards? I have seen a few op-amps and Multiplexers on the 443 card. As far as I know, VCAs are used for leveling in the CP65. So I assume that the volume and Remote fader pots should lead into the same circuit area as the Mute circuit?

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System Notices
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It has been 1464 days since the last post.


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Christian Hove
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Hi,

Not being able to PM or email Carsten I revive this old thread.

Hi Carsten,

I would also like to modify the fade time of our CP65'ers.
Did you find a way to do this?

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Carsten Kurz
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Hmm, seems there is temporary trouble with the PM function. However, I just saw your PM in my profile. And no, I did not modify our CP65 for a longer fade time.

But I guess we should be able to find the necessary information. There are quite a few Dolby buffs on the forum.

Only info I have so far is that resistor R34, changed to 500kOhm, would produce around 7s of fade. On which CAT I don't know, but there are not too many choices ;-)

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Carsten Kurz
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Sure it is CAT. No. 443

Did someone contact you privately about this?

Oh, wow, there is an excellent zoomable picture of a CAT. No. 243 on ebay, readable down to component number.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DOLBY-CAT-243-CONTROL-LOGIC-spare-card-for-CP-55-Processors-/390371034623

Now who's able to find R34 or pinpoint any other regions that deal with the mute function/mute timing??

Hmm, strange, I can easily pinpoint R32,R33 (top middle), R35,36,37,etc. (bottom left), but I can't find R34...

Ooops, I found it, right side, around a third from the top, R34,R94,C5,R12, IC3 in a row from left to right. I'll have a look at our real 443 later. I have never seen the two side by side.

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Sam D. Chavez
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The fade up time affects the fader. If too long the knob will turn faster than the audio can follow.

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