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Author Topic: Strong Alpha 3 Michael Voiland Expert Film Handler Posts: 219 From: Naperville, IL US Registered: Aug 2009 posted 01-20-2010 12:23 AM                     Does anyone know the part numbers to upgrade a strong alpha 3 platter to removable brains from fixed brains.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-20-2010 02:38 AM                     2359 Arm Spindle in Retrofit 1183 Spacer 2357 Control Plate Plug-in adapter (to convert your wired brains to removable brains) You gonna have to take the 110v wiring that comes out of the arm and attach female 2063 pins to wire that will go in positions 2 and 3 of the Arm Spindle. Good luck - Monte  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-20-2010 08:56 AM                        Monte: the adapter comes with pins, wires, and butt connectors. This is easy to do except for loosening/tightening the nut. I have sometimes used two men and a 6 ft pipe over the end of my socket wrench. (I think they overdid it with the impact wrench.) I convert 100% of the platters that filter through my office; I HAVE shop air there! Louis  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-20-2010 10:30 AM                     Michael, as Louis said, the spindles can be a bitch to remove. The first one I tried, I was cussing, sweating and bitching out Potts. When you do the switch, make sure you have a "cheater/breaker bar" handy. Other than that, be sure to order extra 2357 plate adaptors. They tend to break on their own... and you'll have to replace these from time to time.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-20-2010 12:32 PM                     quote: Louis Bornwasser (I think they overdid it with the impact wrench.) Funny you say that is that I got two units that on a monthly basis, I have to tighten that flippin' nut..and with the wires already coming through, I have to use channel lock pliers to tighten that nut. If you got a better idea on for me to tighten that nut, please send the info down my way... thx-Monte  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-20-2010 12:56 PM                     Funny, I've never had problems loosening or tightening the nuts. I just use a large open end wrench to do the job. I beleive it's a Craftsman in fact. You may have to turn the wrench over every 1/4 turn when tightening it so you can get the nut run in all the way against the lock washer. Monte: Use loc-tite... the blue stuff... not the red stuff! Mark  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-20-2010 02:08 PM                     Mark, you're just good at handling nuts  |  IP: Logged Michael Voiland Expert Film Handler Posts: 219 From: Naperville, IL US Registered: Aug 2009 posted 01-20-2010 11:11 PM                     Did strong ever offer a manual or is it just remove old shaft replace with new one. We have 9 Alphas and only 2 have the fixed brains. And last minute film moves are not uncommon.  |  IP: Logged Jake Spell Master Film Handler Posts: 294 From: Johns Island SC Registered: May 2009 posted 01-21-2010 09:10 AM                     quote: Monte L Fullmer I have to use channel lock pliers to tighten that nut. Channel locks or any other pliers that grip like them, ie vise grips, pipe wrench, Should not be used on bolts since it will destroy the flats, making it impossible to remove.  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-21-2010 09:58 AM                     quote: Use loc-tite... the blue stuff... not the red stuff! There is a lock washer that is supplied with the spindle. Use that instead.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-22-2010 12:24 AM                     K, found a right-size open end wrench that would fit up in tha restricted area and pulled with all of my weight behind that wrench to torque that nut down..and it does have star washer inbetween the nut and the arm, thus no lock-tite needed. tx-Monte  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-22-2010 05:46 AM                     I've had the locking nut work loose on on many platters over the years. Since it's a waste of time to have to cut the wires and re-crimp them and I don't carry those lock nuts around with me I just drop the nut down and use a bit of Loc-Tite on the threads... which I do carry with me. If you look at the star washer used it is a bit on the thin side and it seems to sometimes compress or slightly flatten over the years. Mark  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-24-2010 07:14 AM                        This loosening is caused by pressure (splicing?) on the outside edge of the platter over time. There is a LOT of mechanical advantage. Notice that the bottom and middle decks are the only ones to loosen? Louis  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-24-2010 01:41 PM                     quote: Michael Voiland Does anyone know the part numbers to upgrade a strong alpha 3 platter to removable brains from fixed brains. Yep. It's Christie part # AW3R Save your self the effort and cost, as you can easily find used, good condition AW3r's at reasonable prices as lots of theatres do their D-Crapema conversions. The cost could easily be less than the parts from Wrong. (Locally I have found good used AW3's with MUTs for as little as $500.) Maybe even free if you're willing to pick up and haul off the platters.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-24-2010 02:54 PM                     Ah hum... The AW-3 has been discontinued... Replaced with CP-2000SB, ZX and the new breed just emerging...  |  IP: Logged

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