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Author Topic: AVATAR 35mm DTS Per Hauberg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 883 From: Malling, Denmark Registered: Jul 2000 posted 12-17-2009 05:20 AM                        If any of You guys are still as hopelessly oldfashionned as me, going to run AVATAR in 35mm, I would like to ask if You've run Your test and if it works. None of my three dts heads are able to track the time-code at all. Greetings from very snowy Denmark Per  |  IP: Logged Michael Hossen Expert Film Handler Posts: 136 From: Perth, Australia Registered: Apr 2007 posted 12-17-2009 05:27 AM                        Hi Per, I played it last night and all of today with DTS and it played flawlessly. No problems whatsoever. Cheers Michael  |  IP: Logged Mike B. Smith Film Handler Posts: 82 From: Universal City Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-17-2009 12:09 PM                     Won't track the time code? Does this mean the green LED is not coming on at the reader head? Did the last DTS print work ok with the TC head and player? Is there TC on all of your reels? Many things to check, always start with looking to see if good timecode is being received at the head, normally indicated by the green LED coming on. This will simply indicate Timecode is present on the film and the head is reading it, If you don't have a green LED could be problems with the print, TC head, or possible TC cable. If a solid green LED is on at the head and the player is indicating it's receiving good TC this opens up a list of other things to check at the player end.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-17-2009 12:56 PM                     quote: Per Hauberg None of my three dts heads are able to track the time-code at all. ?...have you tried to adjust the drum alignment screw, which is under the cover, a bit..? Been many times that I've had to do this adjustment on prints that won't track correctly.. ..or, your drums have been out of alignment and this movie is letting you know about it ... ..and if this doesn't work, you could have weak LED's within the readers..that needs to be turned up.. Some areas to peek at. good luck-Monte  |  IP: Logged Per Hauberg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 883 From: Malling, Denmark Registered: Jul 2000 posted 12-17-2009 04:20 PM                        Thanks, all three Yes, the TC is present on all reels, and No, -the green led is not on at any time - on three different projectors. Yes, -other DTS prints are running the same day without trouble. No, -I did not peel off the sticker (yet - since 1994). Factory adjusted, You know P.  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-17-2009 07:32 PM                     Look closely at the time code on the film. Is there anything interfering with it? I have seen prints where the picture is printed too far over, and the frame lines are encroaching into the time code.  |  IP: Logged Michael Voiland Expert Film Handler Posts: 219 From: Naperville, IL US Registered: Aug 2009 posted 12-17-2009 08:20 PM                     FYI our dts player is on the fritz and has been for months. we need new drives but i know my drive b sort of works the attached played in dts flawlessly after the attached played it was noting I turned the dts unit off so this might just be limited to a few prints.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-17-2009 08:52 PM                        Check the TC area of the film for damage. We had a print once where a previous cinema had run the print "off" one of the sprockets, and the sprocket teeth had made very tiny dents in the film directly on top of the timecode. Results were similar to the situation here -- no DTS playback, and no LED light. I assume the little dents made it impossible for the TC to focus in the reader.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-18-2009 05:06 AM                     quote: Per Hauberg No, -I did not peel off the sticker (yet - since 1994). Factory adjusted, You know ..sometimes, you gotta break the rules to work to your advantage at times ...  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-18-2009 06:11 AM                     Per, Do you have any other theatres you could check with to see if it's just a common print problem in your country? Seems very strange that all three projectors are not reading even the presence of time code. Is it the whole print or just reel 1?  |  IP: Logged Michael Voiland Expert Film Handler Posts: 219 From: Naperville, IL US Registered: Aug 2009 posted 12-19-2009 04:16 AM                     I work tomorrow night I will fire up the old dts6 with disk a in drive b... someday i need to put more 9 dollar drives in our dts unit. From their I can tell you if its just reel 1 or all the reels. I am betting the length of the film they dropped reel 1 because the dts disks cary the sparks and thx trailers and other things on them cutting the usable playback time to 70 minutes or so. Its 2 disk and a 160 minute movie. Reel 1 was short by the way.  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 12-19-2009 08:23 AM                    FWIW, 1 print tracked the DTS fine here in Spain.  |  IP: Logged Magnus Almqvist Film Handler Posts: 9 From: Järfälla, Sweden Registered: Jun 2007 posted 01-05-2010 06:21 PM                     At least two copies here in Stockholm, Sweden; have a bad timecode on reel 1. It plays for about 3-4 minutes, and then drops out. And the led keeps on flashing until reel 2, then everything is alright for the rest of the movie.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-05-2010 06:42 PM                     Welcome to you, Magnus!  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 01-05-2010 09:04 PM                    You guys that are having trouble running DTS must have a Dolby SRD print. Or maybe a Dolby A print. Or possibly an SDDS print. Or maybe an SDDS-8 print. You might even have a CDS print. Or a mag/op print. Maybe it's mono. Perhaps it's silent - or has a variable density track. You might even have an Ultra Stereo print. I'm just guessing, of course. I heard the director wanted a different version of the movie for every possible scenario.  |  IP: Logged

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