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Brian Jupp
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We have a number of rollers that need to be replaced on our ORC platter. We have contacted Strong and they don't produce them any more - they are sending us the few they have remaining in stock. Does anyone know if there is another source for these rollers? We don't need the bearings, as they can be reused from our old rollers. As you can see from the pictures they came as halves. The complete rollers are 2 1/2" in diameter, 1 3/4" wide, and the hole for the bearing is 5/8". Worse case scenario is we get a similar sized roller with the hole in the middle of the bearing that is 1/4" in size to fit over our existing shafts on the platter system. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Brad Miller
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SPECO rollers will fit on those shafts I do believe.

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David Zylstra
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Many years ago I did a complete take up roller conversion of many late 1980s ORC platters (the original rollers were wearing down and scratching film) - it has been so long but I do think the rollers were from SPECO and the included bearings fit the shafts just fine, but we had to get spacers to accomodate the difference in how the bearings were spaced(I think SPECO provided those too).

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Scott D. Neff
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I want to say that one set of ORCs that our company uses had some Christie rollers installed to replace some bad rollers. It's extremely bizarre to look at a crappy ORC and see blue rollers.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Though rollers are not a problem, it is time to retire anything not supported. Although factory support is ideal; when something is not supported by anyone, it is obsolete.

Ironically, the OLDER ORC platters are supported fairly well by Potts since Potts made them. The newer ones are now obsolete. Louis

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Karl Borowski
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"Obsolete" is a needlessly-charged word, Louis.

While scarcity of parts is not ideal, surely you aren't advocating throwing out perfectly-good platters because they have bad rollers that are difficult to source.

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Gordon McLeod
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Of all the platers we have the least grief comes form the mid adged ORCs the ones with the servopots and a variac in the base

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Brad Miller
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quote: Louis Bornwasser
Ironically, the OLDER ORC platters are supported fairly well by Potts since Potts made them. The newer ones are now obsolete.
Louis, which are the older ones? The brown trees or the "Stupid platter" knockoff with the orange trees?

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Scott D. Neff
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I'm assuming he means he orange Super Platters. I thought that those came first and then Super Platter split off and made them blue. Am I wrong?

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Louis Bornwasser
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The orange ORC's were really early Potts platters. As such there is a commonality on important parts. (motors, brackets, variacs, feed out plates, takeup rings.) The rollers are not available, but the smaller Potts rollers work just fine. It is probably possible to replace ALL of them.

The later ORC's and all other ORC products are long obsolete and replacemnt should be considered especially with really good used equipment "on-the-street." Louis

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Karl Borowski
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What an excellent response, Louis, not only disregarding my retort, but doubling the ante by reiterating the same needlessly charged vocabulary.

Top notch. [Razz]

Way to respond with an intelligent reason as to why ORC platters of the later build are "obsolete" or "inferior. . ."

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Adam Martin
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Newbie picks fight with established and respected member. Wackiness ensues.

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Chris Slycord
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What exactly makes his statement "charged" yet alone "needlessly so"? In my dictionary, obsolete can simply mean that it is no longer in use or rarely in use (and incidentally, not having available parts would tend to indicate that this had happened).

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John Wilson
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Where the hell is Security? [Roll Eyes]

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Ian Parfrey
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"Book him, Danno".

But as an aside, how difficult would it be to retro-fit the ORC's with more modern control gear,rollers &tc assuming that time is more readily available than cash? I am in the position of inheriting the ORC Maxi platters and am considering this approach.

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