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Brad Miller
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 - posted 09-26-2009 06:26 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
MGM Makes Phone Plea To Bondholders To Stay Alive; Both 'Hobbit' And James Bond In Peril; Bondholders Tell Studio To Go Bankrupt; MGM Calls That Worst Possible Outcome

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I've collected several knowledgeable accounts of what happened during yesterday's multi-hour contentious MGM conference call with bondholders who were "very loud and very upset". Here's why:

The call was for the benefit of the lenders, and MGM management made the presentation along with Stephen F Cooper, that Zolfo Cooper restructure specialist. MGM made a desperate plea for money because the studio had missed its numbers and was going to be out of funds very soon. "The implication was that it's teetering on bankruptcy," one source told me. MGM said it needed $20M in short-term cash flow to cover overhead, and an additional $150 million to get through the end of year and continue funding its projects, and to start Peter Jackson's Hobbit.

Some say the call lasted 6 1/2 hours. Others said it lasted 2 1/2 hours with lenders, and then the lenders themselves had a conference call that lasted another 2 hours. After the MGM presentation, several bondholders spoke, "and they were irate", an insider tells me. True, this regularly happens on bad news calls like this. But in this case the creditors who hold MGM's term loan debt blame Harry Sloan for MGM overpromising and then missing its numbers, which was discussed during the summer and why he was removed as CEO. "They're not happy that Sloan let the company go in this direction but they understand what’s going on. It’s unfortunate, but they get it that the company is in a distressed situation, and they have to figure out an action plan moving forward," a source explains to me.

The conference call was planned to present the creditors with a request, or forebearance, to waive interest payments on MGM's $3.5 billion killer debt until February 2010. Because if MGM doesn’t have to make those interest payments, then the studio can afford to use that money instead to fund the production slate. The bondholders couldn’t understand why the equity holders wouldn’t fork over the dough. But the equity holders aren’t interested in writing a check because they understand that their equity is way under water already, and there's no upside for them. So, in essence, the equity holders have already written off their investment in MGM. But the bondholders have that $3.7 billion of nominal debt currently trading in the secondary market at about $.55–$.57 cents on the dollar. It's been trading in this low $.50s range for a while, so the marketplace is saying that the company is not worth more than $.56 times $3.7 billion. (And that's probably high.)

As a result, the bondholders are not in a great situation and therefore not feeling generous. On the other hand, if MGM were sold off today, most investment bankers don’t think it would fetch more than $1.5 billion to $1.75 billion at auction. This would mean that bondholders would recover less than $.50 on the dollar. This would be an even worse outcome.

So the bondhholders said to MGM, in essence, that they were going to let the studio go bankrupt and collect their money since they'd be first in line to get paid. But Cooper explained that this would be the worst possible outcome for the creditors and the company. Because if MGM were forced into bankruptcy, then it would lose James Bond and the studio doesn't think it can stay alive without 007. Also, a lot of other issues would surface that would tremendously hurt MGM.

Also, if MGM goes through bankruptcy, that's a very expensive prospect (where only the lawyers get rich), and extremely disruptive (since who would do business with MGM in the interim) and won’t get the creditors what they want which is their money back. It's more than simply MGM losing Bond. The studio could lose a lot of other franchises.

I can’t tell you whether the bondholders will agree to the forebearance or not. It requires a 51% approval vote. But some of the smart people I've contacted do think the creditors will eventually realize that a restructuring of MGM outside of the bankruptcy process is probably the best course right now.

So what's next? MGM now has to formally ask for forbearance, and the bondholders formally respond.


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Frank Angel
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 - posted 09-27-2009 11:06 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hasn't MGM ALWAYS been going bankrupt?

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Karl Borowski
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 - posted 09-27-2009 11:19 AM      Profile for Karl Borowski   Email Karl Borowski   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, I got this feeling of deja-vu when I read this. . .

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Mike Olpin
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 - posted 09-27-2009 12:09 PM      Profile for Mike Olpin   Email Mike Olpin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I thought they got absorbed by Time Warner a little while back.

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 09-27-2009 01:13 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
MGM should just change its name to "The James Bond Movie Co." and put one Bond movie out every two years, and nothing else. They could probably survive on the film rental and video sales.

Even if they were to go away, though, I hope someone keeps the name and logo alive through a licensing deal. That logo is too good to lose.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I read the possibility of this in the financial section of MSNBC a few weeks ago so it's no surprise to me. Some one else will just go ahead and make those films without MGM. I could really care less about the rest of MGM, the Hotels, casinos, golf courses, etc.

Mark

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Bruce Hansen
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 - posted 09-27-2009 01:16 PM      Profile for Bruce Hansen   Email Bruce Hansen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
...And all this security BS didn't help them stay in business? Or did all this security BS cost them so much money, it is one of the things putting them under? Maybe they should forget all the security BS, and just make good movies.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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> I could really care less about the rest of MGM, the Hotels, casinos, golf courses, etc.

The Hotels, Casinos, Golf Courses, etc were split off into an unrelated company years ago in a prior bankruptcy.

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Karl Borowski
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I am sure that the security precautions they take in theatrical distribution make practically no difference, though watching someone on the rewind bench, or having someone watch you work in general I find to be really annoying.

I understand that piracy happens in projection rooms, but not on the bench [uhoh]

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John B. Keathley
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After "Fame", I say "Adios!"

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Dustin Mitchell
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Isn't MGM owned by Sony anyway? I mean maybe they operate as a seperate legal entity, but what would happen to Sony's interest if MGM went belly up? Would Sony have any right to the MGM assets (ie Bond)?

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Oliver Harper
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i heard this report of this on the BBC the other night.. Sony own a small percentage of the MGM don't they?. But like everyone else said i get the impression that MGM has been in trouble for a long time.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Frank Angel
Hasn't MGM ALWAYS been going bankrupt?
Yeah. Kirk Kerkorian has also always been buying and selling his stake in the company too. Well, he's actually bought and sold MGM at least twice.

The original studio lot was sold off for condos if my memory serves correct. When the studio's library was in one piece most of that was sold off to Ted Turner who years later sold out to Time Warner. The Heaven's Gate debacle put MGM/UA into the shitter and the company has never been able to quite get itself out of there regardless of all the different people who owned it. Didn't Pathe have it at one time? I remember the early 1990s era when Giancarlo Parretti borrowed money from Crédit Lyonnais to buy MGM. Then he loots the company while appointing his 21 year old daughter as the financial chief. It's pretty amazing MGM has been able to survive in any form at all after all those disasters and scandals.

Kerkorian is now in his nineties. Perhaps after Kerkorian has passed MGM could die off permanently as well. However, if other studios are smart one will at least buy out the branding rights to the MGM trademark. That's one of the few things MGM has left that is worth anything.

quote: Dustin Mitchell
Isn't MGM owned by Sony anyway? I mean maybe they operate as a seperate legal entity, but what would happen to Sony's interest if MGM went belly up? Would Sony have any right to the MGM assets (ie Bond)?
Sony (along with some private equity partners) paid $5 billion for MGM back in 2004. The big thing Sony gained in the purchase was rights to a certain spread of MGM's movie library. Of course, that library is in pieces, with Time Warner owning much of MGM's greatest releases. In recent years, Fox Home Video has been handling a lot of MGM/UA releases on video, including the last Bond movie Quantum of Solace. So I don't know what all of that stake Sony still owns -at least when it comes to making new movies.

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