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Author Topic: Outing Bad Labs Alex Rolfe Film Handler Posts: 37 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 03-07-2009 05:00 PM                        Over in "Outing Bad Filmhandlers," Mr. Redifer noted that India can't afford backtension. Apparently Adlabs, Mumbai can't afford - cue dots (this seems common to indian prints) - enough black dye to fill the frames at the end of the leader and beginning of the tail on our print of Delhi-6. Makes those changeovers very exciting.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-07-2009 07:20 PM                     hmmm It is nice to know that the standards of the US for projection are world wide I have run bolllywood for years and yes one must scribe cues and the leaders are clear but if you don't want to run them then maybe you should work at another theatre The projectionists job is to present to the public whatever they receive to the best of the ability of the facility they work at This sounds more like threader gripping than legit projectionist issues sorry to sound negative but that is the way I see it  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 03-07-2009 07:25 PM                     The French don't print change cues either, not a problem anyway for the well equipped booth. You just need a cue cutter of some sort. What difference does the clear leader or tail make, if the film is properly prepared and the projectionist is competent neither will ever be seen.  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 03-08-2009 12:13 AM                     Usually cue dots are the job of the negative cutting house and / or producer and not the lab.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-09-2009 03:06 AM                     Well, the lab implements the cue dots with their punch/die on the dupe negs, right? I don't think it's fair to complain about the lab not including cues when cues aren't standard in that country. Sure, it's annoying to not have them, but that doesn't make the lab bad. They're just doing their job to spec. Same deal with Eclair Lab. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Alex Rolfe Film Handler Posts: 37 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 03-09-2009 08:59 AM                        Gordon said quote: Gordon McLeod I have run bolllywood for years and yes one must scribe cues and the leaders are clear but if you don't want to run them then maybe you should work at another theatre The projectionists job is to present to the public whatever they receive to the best of the ability of the facility they work at This sounds more like threader gripping than legit projectionist issues sorry to sound negative but that is the way I see it It's certainly our job to present the film to the best of our abilities. It's always nice when other people make that easier rather than harder- we added cues and the changeovers were fine. The point was that lab cues and black leaders are helpful in the same way that unlocked cans or well made splices with good tape are helpful. I do find it curious that cues are standard in some countries but not others. Was there ever a movement to drop them in the US? Are there actually enough venues running changeover that they're still printed, or is it just tradition?  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-09-2009 09:10 AM                     cues were often placed in different areas of the screen in different countries  |  IP: Logged Jarret Chessell Master Film Handler Posts: 288 From: London, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jan 2009 posted 03-10-2009 12:52 PM                     I believe a fairly large number of theaters still retain the ability to go reel to reel even if they have a film tower or platter system. I rather enjoy being able to run a film reel to reel if it's showing only once or twice to save the hassle of assembling it on a platter. Also, don't forget some smaller venues still use 6000' reels with changeovers. I would like to see them continuing this practice.  |  IP: Logged Damien Taylor Master Film Handler Posts: 493 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2007 posted 03-10-2009 05:23 PM                     Much to my disappointment, our 6000 magazines just came off.  |  IP: Logged Geena Phillips Expert Film Handler Posts: 198 From: Norcross, GA / USA Registered: Apr 2006 posted 03-10-2009 09:58 PM                        Yeah, not in love with Adlabs Mumbai myself, if only because they ship prints without cores. It would probably bother me less if they weren't technically my coworkers.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-10-2009 11:24 PM                     Actually it will have bee a nother theatre that removes the cores somewhere down the food chain  |  IP: Logged Geena Phillips Expert Film Handler Posts: 198 From: Norcross, GA / USA Registered: Apr 2006 posted 03-10-2009 11:32 PM                        Normally, that's the case, Gordon, especially with MOST Adlabs prints, but the Mumbai facility clearly does not run too terribly tight a ship. And generally, our Adlabs prints always come new (our company is owned by Adlabs).  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 퍼항시, 경상푹도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 03-10-2009 11:56 PM                     Generally always?  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-10-2009 11:58 PM                     I have dealt with ADLAB many times over the years ( having worked for the first indian theatre/distribution network in north america years ago) and all our "new" prints had cores but the previously enjoyed prints that came from them never had cores and to date some of our theatres still run bollywood and the new prints have cores others have not but that is part of the joy of bollywood every heason box one opens is a suprise Also Adlabs printing quality is normaly very good  |  IP: Logged Geena Phillips Expert Film Handler Posts: 198 From: Norcross, GA / USA Registered: Apr 2006 posted 03-11-2009 12:56 AM                        Agreed. The quality of most Adlabs prints is top-notch.  |  IP: Logged

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