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Gary Crawford
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 200
From: Neptune NJ USA
Registered: Nov 2003


 - posted 03-03-2009 07:36 AM      Profile for Gary Crawford   Email Gary Crawford   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi guys, been a few months since I've been by.

I have a Norelco wall mount amplifier, type EL 5341/10, model M2A, the "suitcase" amp that switches out real fast.

I believe I lost a power transformer, the tubes won't light up. I have a spare third unit to cannibalize. I changed all the tubes (2- PL36 and 1- 12AX7A), and the fuse, that didn't help. The little lights still work, so there is power there.

The transformer is marked V3 622 95.0, one has T-113 and the other has T-365.

Is there a manual available for this unit? I looked here for one, nothing listed. Also, any hints as to my problem? Maybe something else is wrong?

Also, a source for these tubes? PL36 and 12AX7A.

Thanks guys.

My email: crawsat@juno.com

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Rick Raskin
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1100
From: Manassas Virginia
Registered: Jan 2003


 - posted 03-03-2009 09:13 AM      Profile for Rick Raskin   Email Rick Raskin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
First clue is the tubes don't light.

Check the filaments to see if there is voltage present. PL36 filament is on pins 2 & 7 and 12AX7A is pins 3 & 5.

Not being sure of how they are wired it is helpful to know that the PL36 is a 25 volt filament and the 12AX7A is 12 volts.

That brings up the possibility that the two 12 AX7As may have their filaments wired in series and then connected a 25 volt winding. It is also possible that all of the tube filaments are in series and connected to one voltage supply.

Just Google the tube type -- there are lots available on the Net.

Good luck...

---Rick

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Gary Crawford
Expert Film Handler

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From: Neptune NJ USA
Registered: Nov 2003


 - posted 03-03-2009 09:06 PM      Profile for Gary Crawford   Email Gary Crawford   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Rick.

Found PL36 tubes online already, seems to be enough out there. A friend has a couple 12AX7A's.

Thinking I'll change out the transformers, that's what an Altec tech I know suggested. 6 solder joints and 4 bolts, easy enough to try.

Thanks for the tips on the pins.

I lost audio the other day for about a minute, and then it came back, without finding the problem. Then Sunday I lost audio completely, changedout the amp and had it back. It's been suggested that the transformer lifted, cooled, and then reconnected and I had audio again first time, second time was the end of the little black box.

Thanks again, Rick. I'll let you know what happens.

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 03-08-2009 11:40 PM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The 25E5/PL36 and the 12AX7s should be readily avaialble - Try Antique Electronic Supply or Tube Depot .

-Aaron

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Louis Bornwasser
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From: prospect ky usa
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 - posted 03-09-2009 06:15 AM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Any good dealer should be able to buy from Richardson Electronics, maker of most tubes. (USA) Louis

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Hans Van Der Vlist
Film Handler

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From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Registered: Aug 2005


 - posted 03-13-2009 09:45 AM      Profile for Hans Van Der Vlist   Email Hans Van Der Vlist   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello,

If you need a service manual for your amplifier Norelco EL3541
you can order it here:
http://www.agtannenbaum.com/n_cat.html
hope this will help!
Hans.

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