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Todd Shelskt
Film Handler

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From: Manchester, CT
Registered: Feb 2008


 - posted 12-15-2008 10:28 AM      Profile for Todd Shelskt   Email Todd Shelskt   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Are people familiar with this panel, which uses the pegs to set the automation sequence?

What happened was, the automation went through its cycle, but then wouldn't reset back to the first line. There's a small plastic gear that controls the sequence, and it looks like a spring attached to it may be broken.

Just wondering if someone has some experience here. The EE panel has been very reliable.

Is EE still in business? There's an EE in California, but not the right one!

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 12-15-2008 01:15 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Didn't Lou Bornwasser manufacture those behemoths? The good thing about them is you can lock your tool box inside one when you leave the building during the night... if it's the one I am thinking of... there is a companion booth monitor thats almost as large!

Mark

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 12-15-2008 06:52 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I thought hadden used the showman moniker on them
afterall it was a copy of the general sound showmanII [Smile] which was an updated clone of the cinemation MKIV

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Louis Bornwasser
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 - posted 12-15-2008 07:59 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yep, Hadden/Entertainment Engineering is still here. Call and ask for Ed Wyatt 502-499-0050 8am-4 pm Eastern.

(The newer 95 and 08 automations are somewhat smaller (20 x 20")) Louis

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 12-15-2008 10:44 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Louis... In this day and age it SHOULD now be able to fit into a 2 X 2 inch box!!!

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Louis Bornwasser
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 - posted 12-16-2008 12:36 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thia was made for a single customer who intended it to be a "do-all" box. Given that $75/box is what electrical contractors billed for a single switch, the goal was to eliminate as much of these as possible.

Worked perfectly up until digital tv. (More switches now, but it is still the "controller" for the tv systems.) Louis

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Tim Reed
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 - posted 12-16-2008 01:48 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
These are A#1 in the reliability department, and I've have practically no trouble with them in the field. Other than the occasional panel switch that gets broken from misuse, the only thing I've ever had go wrong is the stepper relay will get dirty after about 10 years and be slow to reset - and that's what sounds like may be the trouble here. A little cleaning and WD-40 on that shaft, however, will clear it up.

FWIW, in my days with Louis and Hadden, I built many of the boards in the early models of this automation, as well as 500+ Dolby Digital sound racks! When you're out in the field, it's pretty cool to run into something you built.

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Todd Shelskt
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From: Manchester, CT
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 - posted 12-21-2008 01:33 PM      Profile for Todd Shelskt   Email Todd Shelskt   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks to all of you for your feedback! Entertaining and informative!

Yes, the panels are HUGE, but reliable!

Louis -- thanks for the contact info. That will come in handy.

Tim -- It's like you read my mind! I squirted a little WD-40 and we're back in business. It was so simple.

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