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Travis Cape
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From: St. Louis, MO, USA
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 - posted 08-21-2008 08:14 PM      Profile for Travis Cape   Email Travis Cape   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am stumped. I tried running a film on projector two in a dual projector booth today and couldn't get any analog sound. This machine has a Kelmar reader, both the preamp and the LED lights were on, on the power supply, and the CP 500 did changeover to proctor two. I inspected all the wiring, as I haven't run that projector in six weeks. Projector one was just fine.

I would suspect the preamp, but while the film was running, I started to set dolby level and the film sound came on briefly. Because of that, I assume that if I thread dolby tone that I can set that, but still no analog sound in any format.

Thoughts?

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Jeremy M Smith
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 - posted 08-21-2008 08:27 PM      Profile for Jeremy M Smith   Email Jeremy M Smith   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Have you tried pressing the bypass button to see if that makes a difference

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Travis Cape
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 - posted 08-21-2008 08:39 PM      Profile for Travis Cape   Email Travis Cape   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I tried bypass and turning the processor off and on. None of that helped.

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 08-21-2008 10:04 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sounds like that changeover mechanism from Proj. No.2 isn't pulsing the processor over to receive that signal from No.2's soundhead.

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Travis Cape
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 - posted 08-21-2008 10:13 PM      Profile for Travis Cape   Email Travis Cape   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Monte, the light on the preamp for projector two does light and the screen display indicates P2.

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 08-21-2008 10:43 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Try this one then: power down the 500, pull the preamp card and reinsert it in its slot. Sometimes the contacts in the card gets a 'set in' and by removing the card then reinserting it clears up this problem.

Do you have another preamp card to do a swap?

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Travis Cape
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 - posted 08-21-2008 11:02 PM      Profile for Travis Cape   Email Travis Cape   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Monte,

I'll try that tomorrow. I don't have another preamp card to check. What confused me more was that you can set dolby level. The processor acknowledges the projector is there for that function...

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Steve Guttag
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Since it is a CP500 with dsub inputs...have you tried swapping the inputs so P2 feeds P1's preamp and vice-versa. This would quickly locate the source of the problem (soundhead reader or Dolby issue).

Steve

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Travis Cape
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 - posted 08-21-2008 11:28 PM      Profile for Travis Cape   Email Travis Cape   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve, I thought that since the reader works for setting dolby level that meant the issue was with the processor, I just don't know where. I'm having trouble with the fact that you can set dolby level with a machine, but not run a film in analog. What's the difference? Aren't they both running film through the same sound head?

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Marin Zorica
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 - posted 08-22-2008 01:21 AM      Profile for Marin Zorica   Email Marin Zorica   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You said you can set dolby level on that PRO2?? Does level light on 222SR/A are burning or?? Probably something with audio chain from preamp to A/D conv. Because if you can set level, than preamp is working.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 08-22-2008 01:47 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Its a CP500. Reboot it. There's better than a 90% chance it will be fine after rebooting it.

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Louis Bornwasser
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 - posted 08-22-2008 12:11 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Swap (temporarily) the Kelmar power supplies. I think you will find the PRE PREAMP power is intermittent. Louis

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Travis Cape
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 - posted 08-22-2008 07:58 PM      Profile for Travis Cape   Email Travis Cape   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I found my problem. I must have not reset dolby level on that projector last month when I had swapped LED power supplies. I set level today and all is well.

Louis, you yourself know all I've done with that theatre in the past month.

Thanks guys

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