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Author Topic: 16mm problems Kirk Sayers Film Handler Posts: 6 From: Ottawa, ONT., Canada Registered: Jul 2007 posted 08-12-2008 11:40 AM                     i have a ELMO LX 2200 16mm projector that has not been run let alone used in at least 8 years. the problem is that the film loop around the solar cell grows until it rubs the output sprocket or bulges out the front end. the gears are all interconnected and run on the same belt so should run at the same speed right? is it a bearing? any ideas??  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 08-12-2008 01:23 PM                     Sounds like your scanner drum isn't turning too well, or even seized causing the backlash of the film.  |  IP: Logged Paul Gordon Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 580 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2005 posted 08-12-2008 01:52 PM                        Fun times Kirk its lucky they didn't ask you to get the 70mm going their to... we have a 16mm at SAW that works  |  IP: Logged Kirk Sayers Film Handler Posts: 6 From: Ottawa, ONT., Canada Registered: Jul 2007 posted 08-12-2008 02:17 PM                     yeah, it's funny how i'm intimidated by 16mm but not 35mm or imax. guess it's because of a lack of experience with them, who the hell uses them except that damned IFCO.  |  IP: Logged Ben Wales Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 602 From: Southampton. England Registered: Jul 99 posted 08-12-2008 03:51 PM                     quote: Kirk Sayers the gears are all interconnected and run on the same belt so should run at the same speed right? is it a bearing? any ideas?? If it is not the Sound Drum Bearing as mentioned also check out the Drive Belt is not jumping a Gear or perhaps the Belt has become distorted if it has not been used for some time.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-12-2008 07:29 PM                     There is just one drive belt and it connects the motor to the shutter...which in turn drives the rest. However, look at all of those pretty white gears in the back...I'll wager that you have a cracked one or even two...it isn't that uncommon on an Elmo LX1100 or LX-2200. Steve  |  IP: Logged Kirk Sayers Film Handler Posts: 6 From: Ottawa, ONT., Canada Registered: Jul 2007 posted 08-13-2008 12:02 PM                     you are right steve. the output sprocket (of course the one at the back and hardest to get to)has a fissure, it's cracked all the way to the collar, every rotation it skipped a tooth width increasing the sound loop. anyone know where to get spares?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-14-2008 08:32 PM                     Elmo still has them, last I checked. Steve  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 09-14-2015 03:07 AM                 It has been 2586 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Gustav Viem Film Handler Posts: 4 From: Trondheim, Norway Registered: Apr 2006 posted 09-14-2015 03:07 AM                     Just found this old post for exactly the same problem I have on Elmo LX2200, cracked plastic on the upper gear. I tried to contact Elmo for spare parts, but they say its not longer available. Anyone know where to get parts? Gustav  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 09-14-2015 08:28 AM                     Try: RC's Parts & Service This guy ran a former Elmo Authorized Service Center. Or: 16mmfilmtalk I forum for 16mm movie collectors where you can get advice as too the source for parts. Both stock and sell Elmo parts for the 16mm collector's market.  |  IP: Logged Edward Sharp Film Handler Posts: 1 From: Monticello,Indiana, United States Registered: May 2013 posted 09-14-2015 11:33 AM                     Hi I am new to posting, but long time reader here. An old projectionist from the 35mm carbon arc/changeover era. If you can't find the gear you need, you might consider having one printed on a 3 D printer. Good luck  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 09-14-2015 12:33 PM                        These guys in Britain may be worth trying, if you can't find anyone here. When I was working in England they were an invaluable source of spares for 16mm portables and pedestal projectors derived from the same mechanisms that were no longer supported by the OEM, including Hell & Bowell worm gears that they made themselves. quote: Kirk Sayers yeah, it's funny how i'm intimidated by 16mm but not 35mm or imax. I have a co-worker who is exactly the same way - great with 35, 70 and digi stuff, but of the FP38-ES, he says, "that thing freaks me out!" and is reluctant to touch it.  |  IP: Logged

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