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Author Topic: Some Hancock reels labeled with "DN14" Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-30-2008 07:10 PM                        I just built up my print of Hancock and on reels 1 and 3 the heads were labeled "Hancock H1(or H3) DN14". I don't ever recall seeing something like this and I was just wondering if someone knows what it means. For what it's worth, the same thing was printed on the tails of both reels.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-30-2008 07:16 PM                     Duplicate Negative Fourteen. Release prints are printed from duplicate negatives (aka "internegatives"). Those dupe negs are generally printed from interpositives, though for modern digital intermediate releases, it is possible they may be directly recorded from laser film recorders. In a digital intermediate workflow, interpositives are produced from a laser film recorder (like an ARRIlaser). For traditional workflow, they are produced from the original camera negative (after it has been cut and confirmed). --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-01-2008 09:41 PM                        But to Justin's point, that information is not usually printed on the leaders, at least not that prominately. Would the fact that it is a DN14 have the kind of significance that an EK Show print has in terms of it being different from a standard print? Even EK prints were never so obviously marked. It also looks like this print has mixed reels, some without the DN14. What's that about?  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 07-01-2008 09:48 PM                     Actually, Frank, it's quite frequently there. Yes, usually not so prominently. Often inside a little oval. It's funny, EK prints don't really have the option to be so-marked like that, because they are not produced in volume (usually), and therefore nobody's going to do up a fancy special set of leader titling just for them. I think most of this stuff is the whim of the lab tech who was handling that reel. Though of course Technicolor Lab and Deluxe Lab do it differently. But the one guy who made up the titles for R1 and R3 decided to label it mega-huge, and the other guys decided not to. This is kind like asking why some leaders have fancy fonts and some leaders have LAD girls in the CF, etc. Why some say "quad" in the soundtrack and others say "SR/SRD/SDDS/DTS" but still others say "SR/SRD/DTS/SDDS"! --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-01-2008 10:31 PM                     Just be happy your print was all heads up. That's a sign of a higher quality print (meaning it came from the better of the Deluxe labs), as well as great convenience for you.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 07-02-2008 05:24 AM                        There is nothing that irks me more when building up a print than having mixed heads and tails. Especially when it's something like H1,T2,H3,H4,T5,H6. You get a print like that and there is no way around rewinding reels before you start. At least when I built up Kit Kittredge today it was H1,T2,T3,H4,H5,H6. I built Kit onto 6K reels because it was going onto an AW3 with fixed brains, so having the consecutive reels tail out actually saved a bit of time.  |  IP: Logged Blaine Young Master Film Handler Posts: 477 From: Kirkland, WA, USA Registered: Sep 2006 posted 07-02-2008 11:38 AM                     Dupe Negative is what we typically interpet this to mean. However, the labels on the cans indicate "Digital Negative", so I'm wondering if DN in this case means something different.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 07-02-2008 11:38 AM                    quote: Justin Hamaker I built Kit onto 6K reels because it was going onto an AW3 with fixed brains ??????? I build everything on to 6K reels and I run a 16 screen with one Kelmar make up bench. It can be annoying when the reels are mixed up directions. But digital will take care of all of this.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 07-02-2008 12:08 PM                     quote: Brad Miller Just be happy your print was all heads up. My Hancock print arrived with reels mixed heads & tails out. (In box- no lock) The mixed reel orientation was a particular pain in this instance since my rewind bench is being moved from one booth to the other and it was disassembeled when the print arrived. (Murphy's Law!) I improvised a rewind using two MUT's.  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 07-02-2008 02:02 PM                     I built two prints last night. Both had 3 reels foot out and 2 reels head out. This movie must have a hex on it.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 07-02-2008 07:08 PM                        Darryl - I have one of those Goldberg reels now so I don't normally have to build up on the 6K reels anymore. Although it might work for a platter with a fixed brain, I'm not willing to try it yet.  |  IP: Logged

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