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Author Topic: Dolby EX...why did we bother? John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-19-2008 05:47 PM                     Just received my DTS discs for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and it's not ES so would assume it's also not Dolby EX. If there were ever a couple of movies that would have it if it still had even a faint pulse they would have been Iron Man and Indy I would have thought. What a waste of money...now, who was it that said we needed it and it was the way of the future for sound? Oh yes, George Lucas, executive producer of Indy 4. Good on you George.  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 05-19-2008 06:22 PM                     I completely agree with you. We have three screens with EX. I do not remember the last time we showed something using it! Marco  |  IP: Logged Jonathan M. Crist Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 531 From: Hershey, PA, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 05-19-2008 06:31 PM                     In a couple of years we will be saying the same thing about Digital 3-D. Like any gimmick it is only lasts as long as there is product to support it.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 05-19-2008 08:06 PM                        The only film that could have used EX to full advantage is Apocalypse Now; the best ever stereo surround film.....not even mixed for Digital. I know that sound mix is "rushed" due to release patterns now; such was not the case back then. Too bad for EX, but it's over, I fear. Louis  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 05-19-2008 08:46 PM                    I have a feeling you will probably see it used more now in home theatre enviroments rather than the cinema.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-19-2008 08:50 PM                     I think we've installed 6 EX systems in the last two years but this was at the customers request.... Mark  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 05-19-2008 09:13 PM                     ? dumb question: Isn't "EX" a Dolby thingey instead of being a DTS thingey?  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-19-2008 09:23 PM                        DTS makes (made?) a box that does essentially the same thing as the SA-10, but called their version "ES" instead of "EX." Part of the problem here is marketing: if you have an SA-10, but have DTS or SDDS instead of SRD, how do you advertise EX capability? "Dolby Digital Surround EX" doesn't fit, since you don't have Dolby Digital.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-19-2008 09:35 PM                        Run it in EX/ES anyway.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-19-2008 10:48 PM                     It was really Gary Rydstrom that pushed the EX thing. Most of our recent "EX" installation were due to the fact that they wanted/needed the AES audio input and/or AC3 decoding. EX came along for the ride. The Current CP650 firmware will "auto EX" so one need not keep track of what films use it. About all I know that seemingly use it on all films are M. Night's films. Dolby doesn't seem to maintain a list of EX films anymore on their web site...if they do, I'd be curious to know where. Steve  |  IP: Logged Joe Elliott Master Film Handler Posts: 497 From: Port Orange, Fl USA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 05-19-2008 11:36 PM                     Wait now, Speed Racer was in EX (at least the print preview of Star Wars on the front of it is.) The revenue from that film alone was worth putting in the EX card.* *note: sarcasm  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 05-20-2008 02:47 AM                     quote: Jonathan M. Crist In a couple of years we will be saying the same thing about Digital 3-D. Like any gimmick it is only lasts as long as there is product to support it. 35mm film was a gimmick once, as was sound; there is still product to support those. A few gimmicks catch on and become permanent, most do not.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-20-2008 02:53 AM                        Except movies can't really survive without a picture or sound, so it's not really a fair comparison.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-20-2008 04:09 AM                     Any day that color gimmick is bound to get old.  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 05-20-2008 04:15 AM                     SpeedRacer in EX? We constantly check DTS disks for ES logo or 5 numbers lenght serials (it's not the first time that EX movie does not have the EX tag on the SRD track Steve - AND no indications on the reels. Seems that labs have fun with us!) but I missed speedracer. I'll double check.  |  IP: Logged

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