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Author Topic: Core-only film shipment Dan Chilton Expert Film Handler Posts: 191 From: Springfield, MO Registered: Mar 2004 posted 05-13-2008 01:55 PM                        I just received a film shipment sans-reels, which is something I've never encountered. Stranger still, the cores don't have holes through them, so I can't use any of the spare shipping reels I have in the booth. Here's a pic. Have any of you come across something like this before? How did you build it up? Also, I called the distributor, and they're completely clueless. In fact, I think this is their first theatrically distributed film. I also phoned the last theater that showed the print, and all they could tell me was that the projectionist who built it up and broke it down won't be in until Thursday, and that it took him a couple days to build it up properly. What a joke.  |  IP: Logged Paul Gordon Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 580 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2005 posted 05-13-2008 02:02 PM                        Get a split reel....we get films on cores all the time... Its a cheaper way to send a film rather then heavy cans on reels.  |  IP: Logged Robert Minichino Master Film Handler Posts: 350 From: Haskell, NJ, USA Registered: Dec 2005 posted 05-13-2008 02:02 PM                        You would use a split-reel to build that. It's a two-piece reel that has a screw-together hub in the middle that fits into the core and your theatre supplies dealer almost surely sells them.  |  IP: Logged Dan Chilton Expert Film Handler Posts: 191 From: Springfield, MO Registered: Mar 2004 posted 05-13-2008 02:13 PM                        Indeed they do. I've got one coming to me direct from Goldberg. Hopefully it will arrive here this week. Unfortunately, that won't be in time for me to build it up. I think if I'm incredibly careful, and go super slow, I can use our trailer reel to get the job done.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 05-13-2008 02:17 PM                     As everyone is suggesting get a split reel or a film flange. We get many films on cores from labs around the world a year for special screenings. That distributor did not want to pay the extra money to have the lab mount the film on reels. That's all it amounts too.  |  IP: Logged Dan Chilton Expert Film Handler Posts: 191 From: Springfield, MO Registered: Mar 2004 posted 05-13-2008 02:21 PM                        Should I be getting a 1000' or 2000' split reel?  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 05-13-2008 02:24 PM                     Get a 2000 foot one, which would be like a regular size reel. The 1000 foot ones work but you will have alot over hanging.  |  IP: Logged Joop de Gruiter Film Handler Posts: 33 From: Lund, Sweden Registered: Jul 99 posted 05-13-2008 02:25 PM                     All prints in Sweden are distributed in this way. I think most European countries if not most countries outside the USA use this method. A split-reel would be a good investment in the booth. A short term solution would be to try and take out the cores and replace them with the type of cores with holes that you mention so you can attach the flanges.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 05-13-2008 02:33 PM                     I wouldn't try popping the core out, If it's a tight core. It would make your job so much longer, doing that. His booth might be better equipped to handle films shipped in on cores, than the standard (less equipped booth) of the US type theatre chains.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-13-2008 02:37 PM                     If you're really careful, you can drill a hole in the core. Just make sure it is securely held and start with a small pilot hole. That's probably what I'd do if I didn't have a split reel handy... --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 05-13-2008 03:52 PM                        Split reels are cheaper from your dealer.....we get a discount. Louis  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 05-13-2008 04:49 PM                        I'm with John. I would pull out a drill and make holes so you can use your whatever plastic split reels you have.  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-13-2008 05:20 PM                     Looking at the picture, it almost looks like someone pulled out the 4" core that the film was wound onto, and put a 3" core in it's place. There is space between the core and the film, but I don't know if there is enough space to make up the difference between the 4" and 3" core. If what I have said above is the case, and this print was on a platter, with the heads and tail cut, you may be able to remove the 3" core, then if you remove the tail leader, you may be able to put a 4" core into the center of the film, and mount it on a take-apart-reel. If there is a little space left, put a short piece of old film at the end of the reel, so that you don't scratch the end of the reel. Good luck.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Weigel Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1062 From: Edmond, OK, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 05-13-2008 05:38 PM                     If you have a spare 2000' reel and trailer flange you should be able to put it the trailer flange and wind it onto your spare reel. Our Kelmar trailer flange also has a small screw removable screw that engages the slot in that core so you can wind it back onto the shipping cores, of course, the finished reel won't be as neatly wound for shipping back out, but it works.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-13-2008 05:52 PM                        Why are there theatres that don't have split reels? Doesn't everyone get a print on cores from time to time? That seems to be the standard shipping configuration outside the US.  |  IP: Logged

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