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Cody Martin
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Hi guys,

Have a few questions on my new ORC1600 lamphouse and power supply.

First one is, is the sparkgap under the reflector suppose to have something around it? It looks like it may have been in glass..but I'm not seeing any sign of that in the lamp house. Is it okay to run without the envelope? See attached picture.

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The second question is about the power supply wiring. I'm planning on running the ps on 220 so I assume that you hook one leg to each of the 220 lugs. What about the 3rd ground wire as I'm not seeing a terminal for that?

The last question is about the fan relay block in the power supply. The wires are just sitting around it...does anyone have a picture that they could check to see if they are supposed to be hooked up or not?

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Thanks for your help, it's veery appreciated.

Thanks,
Cody

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Bernie Anderson Jr
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call Strong and ask for Dale. He's an old ORC guy. He can answer you questions.

Bernie

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Louis Bornwasser
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Sadly not many parts available from Strong, the last supplier of ORC parts. Substitution may work on electrical parts, including spark gaps. Louis

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Cody Martin
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Thanks for the replies.

That's what I was fearing about the part. I did find the other part of the envelope. I just didn't know if the gap was in a vacuum or could be used without one. If it doesn't have to be in a vacuum i could put the piece of glass back around it and use it until I can find one.

Louis, might you have in your stock?

Thanks again,
Cody

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Tim Reed
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The spark gap is not in a vacuum. The covering is just to keep the electrodes from getting into trouble.

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Phil Ranucci
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I'm about to toss out a bunch of ORC 2K rectifiers and platters. Let me know what you need and I'll see if I can remove it.

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Richard Fowler
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The ignitor is a Victoreen which is a division of a resistor manufacturer. I have not seen this unit in years. The cover is an insulated cap not under vaccum. The rental ORC units I had and for client repair I have used a conventional "tube type" spark gap as used in older Cinemeccanica and on the typical German Bauch ignitor.

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Tim Reed
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quote: Richard Fowler
The ignitor is a Victoreen which is a division of a resistor manufacturer.... and on the typical German Bauch ignitor.
Richard, you're good. [Wink]

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Richard Fowler
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Tim,
[Smile] [beer] [Cool]

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Phil Hill
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Oh PUHLEEEZE! Get a room you two...

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Richard Fowler
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Phil,
I know you are trying to "hose down" that fire in your backyard. I know you are too busy to join us [Razz]

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Gordon McLeod
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Phill is never too busy [Big Grin]

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Cody Martin
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Thanks for everyones help. I'm going to put the glass casing back over it and position it so it stays on there. I believe it was cracked and shipping just knocked it off.

Anyone have a manual for the rectifier so I can get it hooked up?

Thanks,
Cody

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Cody Martin
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Just wanted to ask one last question, for now. I have the 4 terminals in the power supply labeled 115v 115v input and 230 230 input. I do not see a neutral or a ground. Any ideas how to go about hooking these up? I can get a picture if needed.

Thanks,
Cody

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Matt Zeiner
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I'm pretty sure ground goes to chassis somewhere in there - look for a lug. I recently got replacement RF transformers for those ignitors from Strong, and regularly use the sparkgaps from discarded Strong DC ignitor PC boards to replace faulty ones in the ORCs...
Since you are going to run on 230V, just make sure the chassis is grounded - you'll be fine. If 110, one of those terminals marked 115 should have a white wire on it. Neutral. (If memory serves)

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