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Demetris Thoupis
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 03-23-2007 01:05 AM      Profile for Demetris Thoupis   Email Demetris Thoupis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How many of you believe that Digital Cinema projectors and servers are overpriced! Buying 1 Digital Projector and 1 Server might be the amount of equiping 4 Cinemas with Projectors and Lamphouses and maybe the main surround processor! I do not want to mention prices from companies for obvious reasons but I believe that the price for the time being is not applicable to small venues, only to large giants but at the end of the day, Is it worth it?

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Monte L Fullmer
Film God

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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004


 - posted 03-23-2007 03:02 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
...all depends on the owner/buyer on what the final decision is, for that is a question that can't be answered directly.

Maybe some small 'indie's' want to do digital and some just can't see the worth mentioned...

Too much grey matter here....

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Bastiaan Fleerkate
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From: Linschoten, Utrecht, The Netherlands
Registered: Jun 2006


 - posted 03-23-2007 04:51 AM      Profile for Bastiaan Fleerkate   Author's Homepage   Email Bastiaan Fleerkate   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In The Netherlands there are a few companies that would lend you a projector and use it for a fixed price per month. CinemaNet (with the screwed up technical shoot out), XDC, and other smaller companies. Than it is also something that can be done with a lower budget.

But hey....35mm Rules. (Look at the Interlock 101)
Digital Cinema couldn't ever be that fun [beer] !

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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 - posted 03-23-2007 05:41 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So is gas, milk, food in general, and most other things in life.

Mark

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Stephen Furley
Film God

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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
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 - posted 03-23-2007 06:44 AM      Profile for Stephen Furley   Email Stephen Furley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Given the very high development costs, and the small size of the potential market for such equipment the costs probably are 'justified' The question is whether the benefits of buying the equipment make the costs worth paying. For most cinemas. at the present time, I don't believe they do.

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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 - posted 03-23-2007 11:25 AM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Movie theaters should not be footing anywhere near the entire bill for any digital projection system. I think any movie theater that is asked to pay 100% of the cost of any digital projection system should reply:
[fu] [fu]

The movie studios should be paying a significant amount of the cost, perhaps even the majority of the cost. After all, they're the ones who are deriving the greatest benefit from it by saving millions of dollars on print duplication and shipping costs.

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Stephen Furley
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 - posted 03-23-2007 12:18 PM      Profile for Stephen Furley   Email Stephen Furley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The problem with that is that if somebody other than the cinema owns/pays for the projection equipment then somebody other than the cinema is very likely to want a say in what gets programmed to be shown on it.

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David Zylstra
Master Film Handler

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From: Novi, MI, USA
Registered: Mar 2007


 - posted 03-23-2007 03:33 PM      Profile for David Zylstra   Email David Zylstra   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Enter AccessIT, Technicolor Digital Cinema, DCIP (and others?) . . . these entities "lease" the equipment to theatres and the equipment/lease payments get paid for by VPFs (Virtaul Print Fees) . . . . each theatre gets the equipment almost for free, all they have to do is commit to a service contract . . . .

I know AccessIT wants to be in the delivery and alternative content business so they charge the exhibitor a nominal fee per print delivered and the film companies pay them a per-movie fee that is less than a 35mm print costs.

I heard that Christie's newest digital projector using TI's latest 2K chip costs 20% less to make, so progress is already being made on getting the costs down . . . . but once all screens are digital the market dwindles down to about 1000 projectors per year (1000/yr is the average screen count growth across the US in the last few years)

Most contracts should include language that keeps control in the hands of the exhibitor.

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