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Author Topic: "FilmGuard Vinegar Syndrome Protection" (eBay) Christian Appelt Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 505 From: Frankfurt, Germany Registered: Dec 2001 posted 03-08-2007 01:26 PM                     Just saw this thing called "Prevent VINGAR SYNDROME with FILMGUARD" (eBay auction)  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 03-08-2007 02:41 PM                        I don't know what is in these things, but the word 'prevent' just flies in the face of all we know about the process of deacetylation in diacetate/propionate/triacetate film base. Even a molecular sieve won't 'prevent' VS - it'll just slow it down. VS can be slowed down by a number of methods, but it can't be arrested or reversed.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-08-2007 03:16 PM                     It's bullshit. As Leo already pointed out there is no such thing as a cure for VS. Sure there are many products out there that claim to slow it down, but nothing stops it.  |  IP: Logged Frank Dubrois Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 896 From: Cleveland, OH Registered: Mar 2005 posted 03-08-2007 04:52 PM                    It almost makes it sound like it uses FilmGuard or has some association with it. Although technically it could be called A Film Guard.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-08-2007 05:14 PM                  Brad, I hope your sharks (lawyers) are sending out snotty cease and desist letters to those people cashing in on YOUR namesake. You've already been thru all that with CPI!  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 03-09-2007 01:42 AM                        I posted a link to this on the AMIA email list for them all to giggle at. According to one reply, this is possibly a rebadged product, the active ingredient of which is a copper compound, designed to inhibit oxidisation (i.e. rusting) of metals. Apparently they're used extensively in the long-term storage of still photographs (b/w paper prints) to keep the silver in the emulsion stable, and are of proven effectiveness for this application. They've also been sold to consumers as a 'preservative' for factory pressed CDs and DVDs, the idea being to inhibit oxidisation of the substrate. Needless to say, it's open to question whether or not this has any meaningful effect. But of course, as Brad said, the claim that it can have any effect on VS is BS. We're talking about two completely separate chemical processes.  |  IP: Logged Paul Burt Film Handler Posts: 46 From: San Francisco, CA, United States Registered: Apr 2006 posted 03-09-2007 11:53 AM                     I don't see anything about Filmguard on the page. Am I missing someting? They're not exactly overpriced at $1.98, but of course by the time you find out they don't work, these guys will be long gone.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 03-09-2007 12:02 PM                    looks like something may have been said to the person who posted that Ebay item. It did original use the filmguard name in it's content.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 03-09-2007 12:27 PM                     (If you notice in the header text in the body of the post, the light blue "revised" is shown meaning that he went back to his post and rewrote it to remove FG out of the text..)  |  IP: Logged Christian Appelt Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 505 From: Frankfurt, Germany Registered: Dec 2001 posted 03-10-2007 07:46 AM                     Yeah, the FilmGuard name has been deleted. Look under momentcatcherproductions.com, the seller's e-shop page, the same product is now called FilmHealth Movie Film Protectant - Vinegar Syndrome Eliminator It must be improved because now it doesn't just prevent , it eliminates VS! Oh, well...  |  IP: Logged

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