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Michael Coate
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For those of you who were projectionists working a changeover booth back when 70mm prints were available, did you receive 70mm trailers to run with your 70mm features? Or, did you run 35mm trailers and pre-show stuff on Projector #1 and Reel 1 of the 70mm feature on Projector #2 and then during Reel 1 switch over Projector #1 to 70mm in time to change over to Reel 2?

Did you prefer running 70mm trailers so that they, like the feature, could be heard in stereo and use the same masking setting? Or did you prefer flat, mono 35mm trailers so that the transition to 70mm and full six-track stereo would have impact?

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Andrew McCrea
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What a great topic!

I can't wait to hear more.

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Thomas Hauerslev
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I've got a copy of the "Lawrence of Arabia" contract with Columbia/ 3 Falke bio from 1963, where it is specifically stated, that a 70mm trailer for "Lawrence" has to be shown as much as possible in advance before the films release. The contract was signed in early 1963, and the film opened in October the same year.

The only 70mm trailer I have ever run commercially, was the "Far and Away" "...now, this is our movie!!" trailer. We did that during "Spartacus" at the Imperial (in Copenhagen) in 1992.

btw, not all 70mm trailers had 6-track sound - at least not in the 80s

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Stephen Furley
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I don't think I've ever seen a 70mm trailer at a normal film screening; I've seen the odd one at the Widescreen Weekend at Bradford.

Of the four cinemas where I've seen most 70mm films, one I can't remember, another, the NFT, doesn't normally show trailers, and the other two each had three projectors, one still has, the other has replaced one with a 35mm only machine and another with digital. They both ran trailers etc. on 35mm on one machine, and the feature on 70mm on the other two.

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Tim Reed
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Not exactly sure what info we're talking about here, but I've seen lots of 70mm trailers, daters, and policy snipes. General Cinema did them.

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Steve Guttag
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If the 70mm trailer was available, we ran it in 70mm. If what we needed to promote only had a 35mm trailer, we ran that. So yes we did 35 to 70mm changeovers. However, in the 70mm boom of the 80s and early 90s...there were an abundant amount of 70mm trailers so one normally need not have to run 35mm versions.

Steve

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Floyd Justin Newton
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At the orignal Cine Capri in Phoenix, we ran trailers in 70mm
when we were running a 70mm feature. Generally they were spliced on to the head of reel-1. We had enough to do handling
the contour curtain, title curtain, curtain wash (lights), house
lights without having to worry about changing over to 35mm for
the trailers! And, by doing so, it kept the screen presentation
quality VERY high. However, we didn't run trailers for all 70mm
show. The contract usually forbid it.

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John Walsh
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Yes, 70mm trailers were sent to theaters running a 70mm feature because (in many places) you could not change from 35 to 70, "on the fly." I still have a few I kept for testing. If the studios wanted their trailers seen, that meant printing them in 70mm. Sometimes the sound volume would be way off, but generally they sounded pretty good.

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Bill Gabel
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In Westwood, CA, we ran 70MM trailers that the studios sent to be run.

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John Stewart
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While working for GCC, if we ran a 70mm feature, there was almost always a 70mm tr or 2 including the policy trailer and/or THX. Of course, that was a platter system. In the 70's the only reel to reel 70mm prints I ran at the Fox were older prints so no trailers.

In 2004 we received a print to run during the summer series. One of the cans was really heavy. So, when I opened it, it was brimming with film. Turns out it was someone's 70mm trailer reel. Seems like it ran about 30 or 40 min. Sort of wished I had made a list of the titles on this reel but I really didn't have time. One trailer was something of a soft porn.

John

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Blaine Young
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When I worked for GCC, I specifically remember running a 70mm trailer for "Star Trek V" on our run of "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade". We didn't have a "Coming Attractions" policy trailer, so all we could do was "THX", "Star Trek V", "GCC Feature Presentation" and then the film. It seemed difficult to get 70mm trailers at the time.

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Mark Lensenmayer
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There are some rather strange 70mm trailers out there, many for films that never had 70mm engagements. I own the following:

Problem Child (1990)
So I Married An Axe Murderer (1993)
Tummy Trouble (Yes, the trailer is for the cartoon, with some mention of HONEY I SHRUNK THE KIDS) (1989)
Alien3 (1992)
The 1985 Will Rogers Campaign
(My Prize) Return of the Jedi (1983)

Some of these I don't think ever ran, as they are on cores with complete leaders.

Sure would like to see them someday.

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David Stambaugh
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This has little to do with addressing the original question, but I remember seeing a 70mm trailer for "Three Men and a Baby", playing in front of "The Last Emperor". The reason I remember it is because the film suddenly stopped and burned during that trailer. This was at the Edwards Town Center in Costa Mesa CA. Platter. The projectionist that day was an older guy who was clearly mortified about the accident. Before restarting the film, he came down to the auditorium and apologised to the audience for the unscheduled intermission, and invited everyone to come up to the booth after the show for a tour.

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David Kilderry
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I ran plenty of 70mm trailers back in the 1980's. Some did require a masking change as they were widescreen 70mm, like Gremlins etc.

They were always impressive and all that I ran were 6 track sound. At the Forum in central Melbourne we had 70mm trailers for the The Jolson Story and That's Entertainment amongst others as 70mm test films! These old standard 70mm blow-ups with re-mixed sound were not too bad at all from memory.

During a season we always joined the 70mm trailers to the front of spool 1, we changed over after the last of the 35mm trailers. they always had impact seeing the top and side masking open up and the thumping magnetic come through.

At the Village City Centre we had 70mm THX traliers; now they were something.

David

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Rick Raskin
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One of the booths I worked had 2 DP-70s and a Simplex E-7. They often ran the trailers on the E-7 and didn't have to change setup. Another had 2 DP-70s and occasionally ran 70mm trailers.

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