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Mark J. Marshall
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For all you lurking corporate office folks who are considering [dlp] as a replacement to your film projectors, here's a thread I'm starting just for you.

Question for the seasoned folks here... What is the oldest 35mm or 35/70 projector you know of that is currently in common every day use? For me, I haven't been around that many old projectors. The ones we used at the University of Md seemed a little old. Maybe 20 years or so when I was there, I'm not sure. The theaters that I am currently familiar with have projectors that are pushing 20 years old, which still run fine for the most part. But I'm sure there are folks here who have worked on much older machines that are still running like tops, so let's hear the stories.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Just for starters, any Motiograph is before 1956; any Western Electris is before WWII, any Brenkert is before 1956, etc.

Louis

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Floyd Justin Newton
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At one time, years ago...about 1957,I had a pair of Simplex
Regulars that were built in about 1925 that ran like a top.
I sold tham to a friend and they are STILL running like they
were brand new! They are a true "work horse". Hard to beat.
[thumbsup]

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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There are theatres still running Simplex E-7's, and I don't doubt that there are a few Simplex Super's still in operation.

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Mike Blakesley
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Where's Mark Gulbrandsen on this one? There are plenty of oldies-but-goodies in Montana! Even our "new" projector here is 26 years old. (Simplex)

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Martin McCaffery
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I believe the Stanley Theatre in Utica NY is still running Super Simplexes from the 1930's. I ran them at several theatres in the DC area during the 70's and 80's and ran Motiograph AAA's until about 1995, which we then replaced with probably 25 year old Simplex XL's.
A better question would be: What's the oldest digital system still running;>

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Monte L Fullmer
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Plenty of Supers still running in E.Idaho .. know of one Drive-In that has one in operation [Eek!] - Monte

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John Pytlak
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When I worked at the New Angola Theatre in Angola NY (1967-1970), we had a pair of Standard Simplex with Peerless Magnarcs. Leaked lots of oil, but were real workhorses. As far as I know, they still are using those old projectors:

http://www.newangolatheater.com/

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An early 20 th century landmark, “The Theatre Angola” opened on November 25, 1924 as a silent movie house. Considered a credit to the progressive spirit of Angola, the up-to-date modern movie house constructed by Mr. & Mrs. Frank Wiatrowski offered moderate cost movies as well as 3-act vaudeville shows along with local entertainment.

The theater was converted to sound in 1929 in the early days of “talkies”. The management was leased in the early months of 1930 and operated as “The New Regent” Theater. When the lease terminated, the owners returned to management, re-opening on April 24, 1930 using the original name “The Theatre Angola”.

To remain competitive with movie houses of surrounding communities, a group of local businessmen leased the theater, made improvements in the sound system and opened on November 11, 1930 under the name “The New Angola Theater” featuring the movie “Good News”, a prophetic title as it turned out. The theater contributed to the cultural and economic stability of the community as it became an entertainment center, frequently used for a variety of public functions such as local theatricals, home-town talent shows, minstrel shows, essay contests, Christmas parties, musicals and graduation ceremonies, all of which contributed to the well being of the community.

Following previous management of Sylvester J. Graff, the property was transferred in 1948 to Mr. Richard Geitner who operated the “New Angola Theater” until his retirement in 1995, at which time the building was put up for sale.

Being closed for nearly seven years contributed to a negative impact on the business community and quality of life of the residents of this small community.

The desire of Claddagh Commission Inc. to give something back to the community which embraces them, and at the same time provide meaningful work opportunities for the individuals they serve, resulted in their decision to purchase, re-store and re-open the vacant theater.

Significant to this reality is the fact that under Claddagh's positive and sensitive leadership, the theater, as the cornerstone of the business district will survive, providing not only needed employment, but wholesome entertainment once again thus enriching the lives of all in the community. Claddagh re-opened the New Angola Theater with a grand opening on the evening of May 17, 2002 featuring dinner and a movie.


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Demetris Thoupis
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We have a Victoria 4E which I believe was one of the first bunch and also 2 Victoria 6B projectors. Those projectors are dated 1950 I believe and the 4E 1948.
Demetris

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Dennis Benjamin
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quote:
Just for starters, any Motiograph is before 1956; any Western Electric is before WWII, any Brenkert is before 1956, etc.
The Clayton Theatre in Dagsboro, Delaware has two Motiographs still in use daily.

www.theclaytontheatre.com

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Scott Norwood
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Until it closed this fall, the York Beach Cinema in York, Maine was using its original Kaplan (Simplex Standard clone) projectors, which dated from 1926. The Western Electric bases came later, when they converted to sound in the 1930s. I believe that the Peerless lamps were original as well. I don't know if this counts, however, as the theatre was only open seasonally.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Mike Blakesley
Even our "new" projector here is 26 years old. (Simplex)

Gee, Mike, That XL is still a "baby" being 26yrs old .. not even broke in yet..

-Monte

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Will Kutler
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I know of one cinema historian that has put on authentic shows/film festivals using restored and fully working EARLY projectors from the dawn of motion picture.

www.silentmovies.com

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Ron Curran
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Looking at old projectors, we could say it's like the reliable axe that's only had 3 new heads and 5 new handles. There's a lot of new superstructure on most old projectors.

A cinema in our region has a pair of C & W machines operating every week. I think they were made in the 40s and overhauled in the 90s.

I believe that the only thing I can change on my digital projector is the lamps and the filter. Overhauling it will probably mean hauling it over to the dump.

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Robert Throop
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quote: Martin McCaffery

I believe the Stanley Theatre in Utica NY is still running Super Simplexes from the 1930's.

The Stanley is running XL's that were installed in 1960. They're backed up by Core Lite 135's.
Bob

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