Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE


  
my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Operations   » Film Handlers' Forum   » Cinemeccanica Slow-Start Kit

   
Author Topic: Cinemeccanica Slow-Start Kit
Don Furr
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 509
From: Sun City, Ca USA
Registered: Nov 2002


 - posted 08-28-2006 02:18 PM      Profile for Don Furr   Email Don Furr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does anyone have the wiring schematic for the slow-start kit made for a Cinemeccanica? [Confused] This is the one with 2 latching relays (timer on top of one, nothing no the other), 3 green resistors and a 13 position terminal strip.
Thanks

Don

 |  IP: Logged

Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

Posts: 5246
From: Northampton, PA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 09-01-2006 08:22 AM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
OMG, I hated those 3-step things (this for like a V-10, large reel system, right?)! [Big Grin]

If I remember correctly, the resistors are in series with one another and the motor lead (although, I thought both relays were time-delays).

When the start button is pressed, power is applied to the motor through all three series resistors. When the button is released, it shorts the first resistor. The remaining resistors are then progressively shorted by the time delay relays until the full supply voltage is applied to the motor. I'm sorry, I can't remember the exact configuration.

But I hope this helps. I'm sure others can fill in the gaps. [Smile]

 |  IP: Logged

Dave Macaulay
Film God

Posts: 2321
From: Toronto, Canada
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 09-01-2006 11:12 AM      Profile for Dave Macaulay   Email Dave Macaulay   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The kit was pretty simple, the only unknown is the resistor values and ratings. I think you just use the starting resistors from the manual start switch circuit.
There are two 3-phase contactors, one with a pneumatic time delay attached. When you switch on, the one with the delay energizes and powers the 3-phase motor through the 3 resistors. When the delay switch closes it energizes the other contactor which bypasses the resistors and sends line power directly to the motor. You just set the time delay to allow the motor to reach full speed before switching.
If you want pushbutton control the first contactor also needs an auxiliary NO contact to hold it on once closed; this connection is interrupted by a NC stop button. If an motor on/off switch is OK for you or you are using an automation with a sustained motor relay contact you can do without the aux contact - or use it to control the sound reader LED.

 |  IP: Logged

Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

Posts: 5246
From: Northampton, PA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 09-02-2006 02:30 AM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dave, I'm so far in the past, I hadn't even thought about that setup (for like V5's and V8's). I was thinking about a much older system... [Roll Eyes]

 |  IP: Logged

Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 09-02-2006 03:49 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Also the single phase hookup for the cinemecanica uses 2 banks of capacitors that are switch during starting leaving one on for the third phase

 |  IP: Logged

Raphael Friedland
Film Handler

Posts: 37
From: Raanana Israel
Registered: Nov 2005


 - posted 09-02-2006 04:45 PM      Profile for Raphael Friedland   Email Raphael Friedland   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just give a look in the manual of prevost p55,the only difference is that in prevost there are only two resistors.

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)  
   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2020 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.