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Jeff Lacey
Film Handler

Posts: 54
From: Canton, MI, USA
Registered: Jun 2005


 - posted 04-10-2006 05:36 PM      Profile for Jeff Lacey   Email Jeff Lacey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi everyone... I have a problem with a CP55. The issue is that the sound will drop out at random times throughout a movie, and sometimes not at all. Bypass mode does not restore the sound either. Nonsync works.

I am getting no signal on the preamp card, so I replaced it with two other cards, and still have the same problem. I have also switched out the voltage regulator, with the same results.

I am thinking that this is not a problem with the CP55 at all, but is in the Kelmer analog reader, but I wanted to confer with you all to see if there was something else I could check. My next step is to replace the reader with a known working one to see if the problem will follow.

Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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Louis Bornwasser
Film God

Posts: 4441
From: prospect ky usa
Registered: Mar 2005


 - posted 04-10-2006 06:30 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There are many possible causes; try the analogue power supply first (Kelmar). Can you substitute another from another screen? Louis

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Jeff Lacey
Film Handler

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From: Canton, MI, USA
Registered: Jun 2005


 - posted 04-10-2006 06:38 PM      Profile for Jeff Lacey   Email Jeff Lacey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's my plan right now...

The reader is on when we lose sound, so that was why I was thinking it was in the processor at first. Now I am pretty confident that its the reader....

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Dominic Espinosa
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1172
From: Boulder Creek, CA.
Registered: Jan 2004


 - posted 04-11-2006 01:53 AM      Profile for Dominic Espinosa   Email Dominic Espinosa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Could be a broken or loose connector/solder connection/wire?

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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
Boardwalk Hotel?"

Posts: 4143
From: Boston, MA
Registered: Apr 2002


 - posted 04-11-2006 03:26 AM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Loose wiring sounds like a probably cause. More likely at the reader end because of the vibrations of the projector. There isn't much movement in the sound rack. If you can reproduce the problem, you can play the Dolby tone loop and follow the signal with your multimeter to the processor inputs.
Be warned that you can't simply swap the readers. They need to be aligned.

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Jeff Lacey
Film Handler

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From: Canton, MI, USA
Registered: Jun 2005


 - posted 04-14-2006 02:56 AM      Profile for Jeff Lacey   Email Jeff Lacey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey... Just a quick update... I switched out the reader's power supply with a known good one.

The problem hasn't followed to the new house, and the problem house hasn't had any issues either...

Maybe the contacts were just dirty?

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Jason Miller
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 241
From: Little Rock, AR,
Registered: Mar 2004


 - posted 04-14-2006 03:39 AM      Profile for Jason Miller     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If it is the Vanilla colored box with the Green LED ont he front, I have had the same intermittant problem.

as soon as I show up to the theatre it seems to be working fine.

I have been replacing those older Kelmar power supplies with the new black ones that have LED current adjustment on the front so you dont have to open up the box.

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