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Matthew Taylor
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I have acquired a new lamphouse that has an old lamp in it. I am going to have to put up with the old lamp until I can afford a new one. Whilst cleaning the reflector I touch the lamp. My question is would it be ok the clean the lamp using some alcohol wipes to remove any grease?

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Paul Mayer
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I seem to remember that we swabbed newly installed xenon lamps with alcohol-soaked clean cotton editor gloves before buttoning up the lamphouse. Just a precaution to get any inadvertant knuckle prints off the quartz before striking it up.

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Randy Stankey
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Christie used to package an alcohol wipe with each lamp, specifically for the purpose.

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Dominic Espinosa
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Pure alchohol and a lint free cloth is what I've always read.

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John Pytlak
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Yes, pure isopropyl alcohol can be used to gently remove any fingerprints. USE PROPER SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND PROCEDURES! [Eek!]

If you leave the prints on the lamp, they can etch the surface, eventually causing a lamp failure.

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Jason Miller
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I was told to use Denatured alchohol. Is Isopropyl the right one?

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Thomas King
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Denatured alcohol is simply ethanol that's had stuff added that makes you go blind if you drink it.

Isopropyl alchol is propan-2-ol, and is much better for cleaning. Tastes better, too.

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Randy Stankey
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Ethanol will make you go blind if you drink it!

Denatured alcohol is ethanol mixed with acetone and METHanol, thereby rendering it undrinkable.

The problem is, as much as ethanol is good for cleaning things, methanol and acetone, even in small amounts, can destroy plastics. Therefore, don't use denatured alcohol on plastic without testing to see if the stuff attacks the plastic.

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John Pytlak
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Pure (anhydrous) isopropyl alcohol (2-propanol) should be available "behind the counter" from most pharmacies. "Rubbing Alcohol" is usually isopropyl alcohol with water as an impurity (usually 70% or 91% purity are "over the counter" rubbing alcohol).

Methanol or acetone will definitely attack some plastics, including triacetate film base.

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Jason Miller
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quote: Randy Stankey
The problem is, as much as ethanol is good for cleaning things, methanol and acetone, even in small amounts, can destroy plastics. Therefore, don't use denatured alcohol on plastic without testing to see if the stuff attacks the plastic.

but we are talking about cleaning the quartz of lamps here. not plastic. is denatured not allowed to clean lamps?

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John Pytlak
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The issue is that the chemicals used to "denature" ethanol vary. Probably safe for quartz, as long as there is no residue.

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Randy Stankey
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quote: Jason Miller

we are talking about cleaning the quartz of lamps here

You are correct. As long as you are cleaning the glass, it's probably okay to use denatured. Just be sure there's no resudue left over. Wipe the glass completely dry. Make sure there's no white, streaky junk left behind.

I mentioned the problem with plastics because there are a lot of people who think if a little of something is good, then a LOT must be better. I've seen people spraying alcohol all over the inside the projector. If they did that with denatured alcohol and the acetone attacked the plastic parts inside the projector, they would be SCREWED!

Just doin' a little C.Y.A. [Wink]

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William Hooper
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Isopropyl alcohol may taste better than methanol, but it's still not a recommended beverage. It's oxidized to acetone rather than acetic acid, & causes gastrointestinal bleeding. Drink isopropanol & poop blood.

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Paavo Mardi
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Hello!
Can I use acetone instead of alcohol to clean xenon bulbs?

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