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Ian Bailey
Master Film Handler

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From: Nambucca Heads, Australia
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted 10-16-2005 08:36 PM      Profile for Ian Bailey   Email Ian Bailey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi
Just need to know how many models of Monee projectors are out there.
What projector is the Monee a copy of?
Can the manual for the projector that the Monee has been copied from be used to service a Monee?
Thanks
ps Don't burn me on this one I inherited this magic piece of machinery!!!!!

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Richard Fowler
Film God

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From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Registered: Jun 2001


 - posted 10-16-2005 09:06 PM      Profile for Richard Fowler   Email Richard Fowler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Generally if it is a Monee it is either a two piece which is a copy of a Century SA or a single piece model. Generally most Century parts will work in the drive train...there are some differences regarding projector drive pulley, sound drum assembly, exciter assembly,threading lamp, lens turret. Seals from Lavezzi and minor adjustments on the intermittent assembly should be checked on. All gear set screws should be replaced with better hardware since most of our service problems where loose gears or leaking intermittents. Monee is at least better than earlier Cinecitas made by another Indian family member years ago.

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Dick Prather
Master Film Handler

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From: Portland, OR, USA
Registered: Feb 2002


 - posted 10-16-2005 10:22 PM      Profile for Dick Prather   Email Dick Prather   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have rebuilt several Monee intermittents and found the material used in making the star, cam & sprocket was softer then LaVezzi products. All major parts are the same as a Century. Most rebuilds required complete replacement of parts and were more difficult to set-up properly. Not forgiving if low on oil. Ran fine after LaVezzi parts replacement. Most screws were metric.
Dick

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 10-17-2005 02:33 AM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Most of the Monees I have serviced had a mix of SAE and metric fasteners all over the place.

As mentioned above, many Century parts fit the Monee, many don't. A Century intermittent will fit perfectly into the Monee, but the reverse requires slight machining of the rear of the intermittent casing to clear the Century flywheel.

Build quality is hit-n-miss for the most part, and some of the assemblies appeared to have been hand made or done on really crude machining tooling.

However, when they do run right, they do produce a spectacular picture.

-Aaron

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 10-18-2005 06:21 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I pity the poor slobs that end up with these machines!

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Jonathan Worthing
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From: Hereford, UK
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 10-20-2005 03:54 AM      Profile for Jonathan Worthing   Email Jonathan Worthing   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Serviced one yesterday.

Quite running, steady crisp picture.

When they are looked after, (which this one is) it is hard to fault them.

Saying that they don't like to be abused & dirt is there worst enemy.

Not the best projector, but by far not the worst.

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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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 - posted 10-20-2005 09:50 AM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There are very few "bad projectors" if they are installed, operated and maintained as the manufacturer recomeneded out

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Louis Bornwasser
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From: prospect ky usa
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 - posted 10-20-2005 03:02 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
While I have a personal preference for Century; I would not trash a Monee. Since they are essentially identical; a good overhaul would yield a Century-clone. Louis

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 10-20-2005 06:33 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Louis Bornwasser
a good overhaul would yield a Century-clone. Louis

Oh come on Louis... do you really think the cheap skates that are buying these junk heaps are going to also pay for an overhaul... give me a break.... these are absolute crap..... most of the assemblies are not even interchangable from one machine to another becasue they're made with out jigs of any sort.... Fortunatley all of them(except one) around my service area have been removed in favor of either real Centurys or other projectors. BTW: They also have the worst of the worst turretts.

There was a six plex that had them when I first moved out here and all the hardware used to constantly loosen up on its own and sometimes literally fall of the machine... locktite only solved some of it but good projectors don't need locktite! Thiose six were the last ones here to get pulled out... and sent back to CFS for a refund... they were replaced by Simplex's and all problems in the booth ceased.

quote: Gordon McLeod
if they are installed, operated and maintained as the manufacturer recomeneded out

Yea, like that happens often.....

Mark

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Chad Lindsey
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From: Ada, OK, USA
Registered: Feb 2004


 - posted 11-06-2005 06:08 AM      Profile for Chad Lindsey   Email Chad Lindsey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I would have to agree that, if maintained, the Monee can be quite a friendly creature. At first I thought "Ancient = Bad" but I have learned that these projectors aren't ancient... just "mature" [Smile]

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Tom Sauter
Expert Film Handler

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From: Buffalo, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 11-06-2005 05:12 PM      Profile for Tom Sauter   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Sauter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A friend of ours refers to the Monee as the "money"...

quote: Gordon McLeod
There are very few "bad projectors" if they are installed, operated and maintained as the manufacturer recomeneded
If manufacturer recommends tightening the drivetrain or replacing the set screws upon installation, then this would indeed be a "good projector".

The lack of tight manufacturing tolerances is a severe shortcoming. While they are certainly servicable machines, they do become "bad projectors" because servicing them is a pain. Seriously, you can pay now for a better, more forgiving machine, or pay later for service calls.

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Louis Bornwasser
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 - posted 11-06-2005 07:43 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tom: pay now/later is the rule that most of us live by. Unfortunately, many of our customers are "accountants" who do not understand any concept except "low initial cost." That is why there is so much bad equipment, poorly installed. Mostof my business is "mopping up" after someone else does that. Louis

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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 - posted 11-07-2005 01:31 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Louis Bornwasser
Mostof my business is "mopping up" after someone else does that. Louis



Boy, You can say that again... I spend alot of time mopping up supposed rebuilt used equipment thats sold by a certain Denver dealer. One of our customers who likes to buy used from him always teases us and says we make more profit repairing what used equipment they sell him that we would have made selling him brand new equipment..... Sad... but he's absolutely right!

Mark
(Somewhere in beautiful Northern Wyoming)

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