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Author Topic: Are Film-Tech media pad cores smaller? R. Andrew Diercks Expert Film Handler Posts: 232 From: Marion, Iowa (In the middle of everywhere) Registered: May 2003 posted 05-14-2005 01:40 PM                     I just got 4 new boxes of media pads and the cores won't slide onto my Kelmar cleaners. The cores appear to be smaller. Any way to make them work without winding them all onto old cores? Help me Brad! I did a search and found nothing on the issue.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-14-2005 08:35 PM                     You mean they won't slide onto your TAKEUP shafts? If they won't fit onto your SUPPLY shafts, then you must have some rust buildup on them or something. If they don't slide onto your takeup shafts, your rubber inserts have worn to the point of needing to be replaced. They're really cheap though...time to order some replacements. The newer cores that have the imprinted "Film-Tech" into the sides have just a TAD bit smaller inner diameter, which helps keep the media running straight during shows. By the way, as it says in the FilmGuard instructions, never remove those cores. Just loosen the thumbscrews and yank the media off. It will make your rubber inserts last a lot longer and you don't risk losing crucial parts on the takeup shafts.  |  IP: Logged Dan Lyons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 698 From: Seal Beach, CA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 05-15-2005 01:24 AM                     quote: Brad Miller If they don't slide onto your takeup shafts, your rubber inserts have worn to the point of needing to be replaced. They're really cheap though...time to order some replacements. Not necessarily... I ordered brand new rubber bits from Kelmar for my cleaner, the new cores don't fit on them, so I just keep my old style cores on the takeup. Kelmar must be having some quality control issues.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 05-15-2005 03:01 AM                     True, and I've seen that before on some media pads cardboard cores where they have a hard time slipping over the "expansion rubber" cores on the spindles, so I just rolled the media from the cardboard cores onto the plastic ones(which I cut down to fit a feature, and thus let me really get the media soaked with FG), and called it that. - and this was back in 2001-2..last years with my tenure with Edwards. -Monte  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 08-04-2008 08:50 PM                 It has been 1177 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: Boulder Creek, CA. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 08-04-2008 08:50 PM                     What would be the issue here if the rubbers are new? We just bought a brand new Kelmar cleaner, some FT pads and FG (first time in this chain with FG!) and have found that the take-up cores are so tight it's difficult to rewind. I haven't looked at it myself yet but the projectionist (with previous FG usage experience) is one that I trust. I can't imagine he's doing anything wrong with it. Ideas?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 08-04-2008 09:03 PM                     ?, do the rubber inserts go into the cardboard cores by themselves without being on the cleaner rewind spindles ? ..sounds a bit that they're still a bit compressed....  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 08-04-2008 09:16 PM                        Are plastic cores available? The box of media comes with a few extra cores, but once you use Film-Guard on them, it's difficult to reuse them.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-04-2008 09:51 PM                     I can send you a couple of the older style cores which were larger, but generally people found they were TOO large. It sounds to me like you received defective sized rubber inserts. You should order the ones from Cardinal Sound, as they are superior to the ones from Kelmar.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-04-2008 09:57 PM                        I've literally had to sand down the Kelmar rubbers before to make them smaller, rubbing them across sandpaper on all sides. I also clipped them so they were a bit shorter.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-04-2008 10:30 PM                     Odd. Usually I find Kelmar cuts them too short from the factory.  |  IP: Logged Craig Dunn Film Handler Posts: 14 From: Anderson, CA, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 11-09-2008 10:21 AM                     I've been playing with this for several months now. Take a pair of Film-tech plastic cores using a rotor tool cut out 1/4 - 1/2 inch of the circumference. Then snap over media directly on spool, tighten screws. Replace when you must tighten screws fully next step is slippage. Be certain to sand smooth the cut edges. Craig Dunn  |  IP: Logged Galen Murphy-Fahlgren Master Film Handler Posts: 405 From: Canton, MI, USA Registered: Oct 2007 posted 11-10-2008 09:27 AM                     I just got some new Kelmar rubbers, and they are too long but the width is just right. Also, Brad, my media pads that came in a couple weeks ago are on old style cores, and I was curious as to that. It isn't a problem, it's just something I noticed.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-10-2008 12:42 PM                     It must've been some really old stock that didn't get rotated out by a dealer. Hang onto the cores, as if you get into that bind where your rubber inserts are too fat you can go to those for takeup.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 11-10-2008 12:56 PM                        I didn't know that the new cores were intentionally made smaller, but noticed right away when I got them. I was putting a couple pieces of film between the core and the cleaner spool. After some cut-and-try, I found a combination that kept enough back tension on the media. Don't have to do that now!  |  IP: Logged

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