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Author Topic: Erneman 35mm Projectors Matt Hollis Film Handler Posts: 49 From: Paragould / Jonesboro, AR, USA Registered: Jan 2005 posted 03-25-2005 09:30 AM                        Hello once again ladies and gentlemen. Does anyone on here use or have any information on Erneman 35mm projectors. I am looking for some positives and negatives as far as the picture it produces, maintainance required, and ease of use. Thanks for your help. Matt  |  IP: Logged Thomas Jonsson Expert Film Handler Posts: 216 From: Bromolla, Sweden Registered: Sep 2003 posted 03-25-2005 04:03 PM                       Matt What Ernemann projector are we talking about? They have been made for almost 100 years. I have worked with Ernemann II, IV, V, VIIIB and IX. All made by Zeiss Ikon and generally very good. Only weakness is a tendency to leak oil. I´ve also worked with the non-Zeiss Ernemann XII (the helicopter), the ugliest and lousiest machine I´ve ever had the misfortune to be working with. I have never worked with the Ernemann 15, but it´s known to be a good machine. Thomas  |  IP: Logged Christian Appelt Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 505 From: Frankfurt, Germany Registered: Dec 2001 posted 03-25-2005 05:15 PM                     For their present product line, look here Ernemann CineTec Home  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-25-2005 09:24 PM                     I have about 15 of them in my service area and I have basically zero problems with them. They don't leak and they ALL still have the original analog Lasers in them. They do have several weak points and the main one is the distance the aperature plate is back from the film and the velvet runners. Velvet is just not a day in day out material for the average multiplex operation. All this results in somewhat of an unsharp edge on the image. I've also rep[laced a couple of the Papst outer rotor motors as well, they are quite pricey at about 800.00 U.S., Kinoton uses the same exact motor! I was able to install new bearings in one of them and that location now has a spare motor. Also, additional cooling fans may be needed for lamps above 2kw. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Thomas Jonsson Expert Film Handler Posts: 216 From: Bromolla, Sweden Registered: Sep 2003 posted 03-26-2005 05:46 AM                       Mark, I guess you are talking about the Ernemann 15? I have no experience with them, but all the older Ernemanns I´ve worked with leaked oil, especially the Ernemann IX. Besides that I never had any trouble at all with them. German quality! The one I liked most was Ernemann VIIIB. Nice and quiet. Looked beatiful with magazine covers and original Zeiss arc lamp, all in light grey hammer finnish. Thomas  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-26-2005 06:56 PM                        Hmmm, a 6 micron slit and a source that remains constant for an extended life....that laser light system sounds very appealing. Does anyone else use a laser in the reverse scan systems? I thought Smart did at one time but it is no longer in their catalog. How bout sticking a laser in one end of a forward scanner instead of the white exciter like the home brew hi-intensity LED unit?  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-26-2005 06:58 PM                     Frank that is how the ACL laser works Also the only erneman machine I disliked was the 9 terrible lens mount The 8b was a workhorse  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 03-26-2005 08:59 PM                       The laser seems to be a great idea as Frank states, but it is not a good way to light a soundtrack. It is the very essence of collimated light when what you need for this application is non-collimated or diffuse light. Collimated light makes dirt and scratches on the soundtrack much more prominent. Why it even sounds as good as it does is a mystery to me.  |  IP: Logged Christos Mitsakis Expert Film Handler Posts: 242 From: Ag.Paraskevi, ATHENS, GREECE Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-27-2005 12:28 PM                     Kinoton also uses a laser unit for conversion of Bauer, Meopta and Ernemann projectors to read cyan track. C.  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 03-28-2005 12:17 AM                       Kinoton does not make a laser unit for their own projector. Only the best for Kinoton? BACP now make a reverse scan reader for the Meopta projector. Our reader replaces the exciter lamp, relay mirror, front scan lens and solar cell. We will be showing it in Amsterdam.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-28-2005 09:20 AM                     Yeah? What about the Eastman 25? Gotta reader for that?  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 03-31-2005 06:50 PM                        Eastman 25....Yeah! a stereo one to fit my one-of-a-kind Kintek 16.(Yes, Dan, but what will we use for film?)  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 04-01-2005 07:50 AM                        I have not heard of any plans for 16mm prints to convert to cyan dye tracks. It's a relatively small market, and labs usually have a slower processing machine dedicated to the format, so the environmental impact of maintaining soundtrack application and wash-off for dye+silver tracks is much less than for the billions of feet of 35mm release prints processed annually.  |  IP: Logged Andrew McCrea Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 645 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Registered: Nov 2000 posted 05-15-2005 12:58 PM                        On the topic of Ernemanns (the 15 series)... Cost wise (initially, maintenance, resale), how are these comparable to other current projectors? Any bang for the buck, with picure quality, etc.? Do the units on their website, such as the E15-5000, come with the reels, projector, lamphouse, etc.  |  IP: Logged Andrew McCrea Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 645 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Registered: Nov 2000 posted 05-16-2005 02:30 AM                        BUMP  |  IP: Logged

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