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Author Topic: MGM- Are all prints now cyan? Apparently not! John T. Hendrickson, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 889 From: Freehold, NJ, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-04-2005 08:17 PM                     Interesting occurrence. I received two prints of MGM's Be Cool. The first one I put together was cyan, but I was somewhat startled to see the second one was Hi Mag. My thinking here was that MGM was now releasing in cyan. Did the buyout by Sony have a bearing on this anomaly? Can anyone shed some more light on this topic?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-04-2005 11:08 PM                     To the best of my understanding international shipments (when the prints are finished playing in the US) need magenta tracks, but most US prints are cyan. The regular label on the cans represent cyan, but the silver label represents a conventional track. I don't know how much longer the conventional tracks will be made, but apparently it will continue for at least a little while.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-05-2005 03:17 AM                     On one of my prints reel 5 was not cyan.  |  IP: Logged Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-05-2005 07:23 AM                     Mike, You are the man of the hour! You have the first test case for comparing the two sound tracks, Cyan and Silver. Please describe for us the instant differences in the "sound" in your auditorium when the change from reel 4 to reel 5 occurs. We all want to know what difference can be observed in this dramatic comparison. Can you really hear more distortion from the Silver track? Is there a level change? That sort of information would be very interesting. Thanks. (As he heads to the auditorium with notebook in hand!) KEN [ 03-09-2005, 06:45 AM: Message edited by: Kenneth Wuepper ]  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-05-2005 10:03 AM                     Ken, Shouldn't you really ask Joe to do this "special comparison" since he's not there..... . He'd be the one to ask ya know...... MArk  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 03-06-2005 07:38 AM                        It may be they are hedging their bets with a small percentage of applicated tracks that will be culled after US release, and used for overseas release into the few underdeveloped countries that are still way behind on converting to red readers.  |  IP: Logged Dominic Case Expert Film Handler Posts: 131 From: Sydney NSW Australia Registered: Aug 2003 posted 03-08-2005 10:11 PM                       quote: Kenneth Wuepper We all want to know what difference can be observed in this dramatic comparison. Can you rally hear more distortion from the Silver track? Not really as useful a comparison as you might think. The silver track would be a high magenta track, which was designed as a compromise solution - less distortion than a "deep blue" silver track on red readers, more level than a cyan track on red readers. There won't be much difference. My fear is that now that most distributors have switched at least to high magenta, the pressure is off (as the high magenta track resolves the distortion problem of blue on red readers), and they aren't so anxious to push the last step in the change - to cyan. Bad result all round if that is the case.  |  IP: Logged

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