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Mike Heenan
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
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 - posted 02-13-2005 04:33 PM      Profile for Mike Heenan   Email Mike Heenan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does anyone know how to decipher the edge markings on an agfa print to determine the year of the print?

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John Pytlak
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Unlike Kodak, Agfa-Gevaert has not freely shared that information. [Frown]

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/support/keykodeid.jhtml?id=0.1.4.11.14&lc=en

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/support/h1/identificationP.shtml#135427

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Mike Heenan
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Strange, any clue why?

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Leo Enticknap
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Did they ever encode that information to begin with? Most of the codes I've seen on Agfa elements just look like batch numbers to me.

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Tim Reed
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I'm still trying to figure out how to pronounce "Gevaert". Anyone? I've always wondered...

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Stephen Furley
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Over here it always seems to be Gave-art; but I'm not sure if that's actually correct.

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Tim Reed
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Thanks, Stephen! I've asked that question several times over the years, and you're the only one who has ever responded.

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System Notices
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It has been 1169 days since the last post.


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Jim Bedford
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Dredging this up from ancient history to ask the same question. I have a silent serial chapter from 1922 that was reprinted on safety film with a sound track on Agfa B&W stock. Is there any way to know the date of the Agfa stock? Anything new on this?

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Kris Dirix
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Jim, what's the edge number ?

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Jim Bedford
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"AGFA GEVAERT S 1907 61 AGFA GEVAERT S 131" and then repeats.

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Kris Dirix
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The stock should be dated either 1977 or 1986

Regards. [beer]

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Jim Bedford
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Thanks Kris. Now I just have to figure out why an obscure serial chapter of a title that's not listed on the IMDB as a serial was struck 55 or more years after it was made.

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Tim Reed
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quote: Kris Dirix
The stock should be dated either 1977 or 1986
So, how did you determine this?

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Paul H. Rayton
Expert Film Handler

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From: Los Angeles, CA , USA
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Yeah, Kris -- Please share with us the date code information, if any. Many of us who work with older prints (theatres and archivists) are constantly trying to figure out the age(s) of the prints we work with, for numerous reasons. Kodak has long made available their date codings, and the duPont codes are available, too. Fuji (until recently) dated their stocks openly. But Agfa's been a bit cagey, and we (I) don't know why. What's to hide? So, please help us!!!

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