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Duncan Smith
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Hi, I am planning a trip to Japan sometime in the near future (when money permits! [Roll Eyes] ) and wonder about what I may find there. I am hoping to get into some projection rooms while I'm there and may even consider working if the situation was right (visa's, time etc).

Does anyone here work or have worked in projection in Japan and what are/were your experiences? What's it like and what are the chances of work in the arthouse/preview end of projection for someone with experience and conversational Japanese.

Apologies if this is in the wrong forum but I was a little unsure of where to put it. [Smile]

Arigato gozaimasu!

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Aaron Sisemore
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You will probably find a whole lot of Tokiwa projectors and film handling equipment... [Smile]

-Aaron

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Duncan Smith
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Aaron my friend, thank you for that. That was truely the most basic website I have ever visited, and it's Japanese!! [Eek!] Why is it that some of those projectors remind me of the Cinemeccanica Vic 5..? Hhmmmm....
Full phonetic translation servies in place too...I'm used to seeing it, but it stil made me laugh when I clicked on the link to "Sheet" thinking they sold screens as well, only to find seats!
Well, thanks for the info, has anyone ever worked on these machines? What can you tell me about them from any hands on experience gained?

Thanx.

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Gordon McLeod
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They are more like an ernemann VIII or VII in that they are all gear driven with a barrel shutter
They are very durable

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Alejandro Lopez
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Go to Links and look at "Japanese made 35mm projectors". I think you´ll like it.

Alejandro.

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Aaron Sisemore
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I know that there is still one in constant use at Skywalker Ranch.

Gord: The newer TSR has a conical shutter rather than the barrel shutter.

-Aaron

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David Stambaugh
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That link to Japanese Made 35mm Projectors isn't working.

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Dick Twentyman
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Hi All,

I have worked with Tokiwa 35mm portables with 8000 ft. spool capacity - not impressed. Threading is very cramped, and the inching knob is on the end of the drive motor. By the end of a spool, the motor is so hot that it is impossible to touch inch the machine over for at least 15-30 minutes.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Aaron Sisemore
You will probably find a whole lot of Tokiwa projectors and film handling equipment...
I've heard that you're more likely to find alot more Christies over there than anything else...... Remember Christie is also a Japaneese company.....

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I have worked with Tokiwa 35mm portables with 8000 ft. spool capacity - not impressed. Threading is very cramped, and the inching knob is on the end of the drive motor. By the end of a spool, the motor is so hot that it is impossible to touch inch the machine over for at least 15-30 minutes.

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Boy thats an understatement for sure. The T-60 has got to be one of the very worst projectors ever manufactured. I used to own one many years back and I called it the meat grinder.
Actually the motor gets so hot its just three degrees from melting down [evil] .

Mark

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote:
Christie is also a Japanese company
yea...Ushio - Monte

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Gordon McLeod
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Mark the T60 was a portable and bore little resemblance to any theatrical machine

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Paul Mayer
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 - posted 01-27-2005 03:28 PM      Profile for Paul Mayer   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Mayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Let's see... Bill Bunch lives in Japan and was doing theater tech work for AAFES. Don't know if he has been in many Japanese booths but he certainly lives in the right place to do so.

Don Sneed has been doing lots of cinema installs for his company in Japan lately. Don't know what he's been installing though.

The only Japanese booths I've seen have been on video tours of Studio Ghibli and the Ghibli Art Museum. Don't know how typical their equipment choices are compared to Japan in general.

This is the Vic 5 installed in the Saturn Theater, the Ghibli Museum's screening room:
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Here's the platter going in at the museum:
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And here's a couple of shots of the screening room booth at the studio:
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Scott Norwood
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Has anyone figured out why most Japanese films come on reels that run about fifteen minutes each? Do they have a standard of 1500' max per reel or something? What do they do when they get films from other countries on 2000' reels?

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Paul Mayer
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All the shots I've seen in the video tours show them using 2000' split reels. Guess they must have a thing about not filling the reels too much.

Here's the editor on Princess Mononoke checking a reel just prior to the first studio staff screening. It's a full reel for them (you can see the countdown):
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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Gordon McLeod
Mark the T60 was a portable and bore little resemblance to any theatrical machine



Gord,
Am well aware of that fact. I was merely trying to get across how bad the T-60 really is. A meat grinder for sure.....

Paul, Thanks for posting those interesting shots [thumbsup] !!!

Mark

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