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Charlie Frisby
Film Handler

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From: Guymon, Ok USA, org. from DFW
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 - posted 12-29-2004 01:59 PM      Profile for Charlie Frisby   Email Charlie Frisby   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Long story short, we're out of cleaning pads,we have Film Guard and we need to use it. The manager recommended spraying the film down, (while running) gently run a towel over the film while runing it to the take up platter soundtrack down, then spraying it down again and runing it right side up. Is this the best method? Are there other methods? Am i gonna fuck up my film?

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Jeremy Fuentes
Mmmm, Dr. Pepper!

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So are you gonna stand there while the film is running and spray the entire print down? Not sure if a towel is a good idea..could scratch the print or fabric from the towel could get caught in the sprockets or something like that.

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Charlie Frisby
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the towel is like a cloth diaper towel, smooth. and i don't put too much pressure on the towel either.

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Barry Martin
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 - posted 12-29-2004 02:09 PM      Profile for Barry Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Barry Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I remembered reading this from the Film Guard page in the Products section of the board:

quote:
What if I don't own any media cleaners? You can still use FilmGuard to effectively eliminate static charges and shedding from your prints! The method in this case is simple. Spray a thick cloth with FilmGuard and then wipe the cloth on the top edge of the print as it is laying on the platter. The ideal procedure is to start the platter spinning (from a makeup table or an obstruction in the centerfeed arm) and wipe slowly from outside edge to the center. There should be a definite "wet" glaze to the print. On this next performance, takeup the film "upside down" from your normal procedure and when the show is over, wipe the other side (now up on the platter) in the same manner as before. (Note: using FilmGuard in this manner will not offer cleaning benefits...only the elimination of static and print shedding.)

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Charlie Frisby
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Awesome!!! Thats what i needed to know.

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Jeremy Fuentes
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Oh, I thought you were planning on Filmguarding the image area of the print, not just for static elimination.

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Charlie Frisby
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well. affectively the film guard seeps about halfay down the image frame, and doing it uside down does the other half of the image frames. You can actually see the film guard covering half the image frames as it goes into the houseing.

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Mike Blakesley
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If you're seeing the FG "seep across half the image," you are using WAAAAAY too much FG.

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Brad Miller
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The instructions on how to lubricate and control static on a print without the media pads are in the enclosed instructions with each bottle.

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Monte L Fullmer
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..kind of the "pits" when the manager of a theatre doesn't want to spend the small amount of dough for a box of the green media rolls for the Kelmars. Shows that he doesn't really want quality presentations...-worrying about the money too much by cutting corners to save pennies. - Monte

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Brad Miller
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A little tip...the green media is abrasive. If you are going to buy Kelmar brand media, specifically request the "white".

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Scott Norwood
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Or just buy Film-Tech media, which is better and which I believe is cheaper, anyway. [Smile]

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
..kind of the "pits" when the manager of a theatre doesn't want to spend the small amount of dough for a box of the green media rolls for the Kelmars. Shows that he doesn't really want quality presentations...-worrying about the money too much by cutting corners to save pennies. - Monte
Hopefully that's not the case and someone just dropped the ball on keeping track of inventory or they ordered it but the order got delayed for some reason.

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Charlie Frisby
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Brad Miller
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quote: Brad Miller
The instructions on how to lubricate and control static on a print without the media pads are in the enclosed instructions with each bottle.
Have you read the instructions? They are quite clear regarding this and there is even a picture.

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