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Chris Brown
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From: Fairport, NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2004


 - posted 12-25-2004 01:54 AM      Profile for Chris Brown   Author's Homepage   Email Chris Brown   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've always wondered this and figured one of you guys here might have an answer for me. Why is it that with many prints you receive, you open up the can/box and find (for example) reels 1, 3, and 4 heads up, and 2, 5, and 6 tails up? Is there a good reason why reels are wound so randomly like this? Obviously if they are all heads up or all tails up, assembling the print is much easier. But I hate having to go through and rewind reels just to get their orientation right. And yes, I know, it doesnt take much time to rewind a reel, but that's beside the point. Anyone know how this happens?

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Stephen Furley
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 - posted 12-25-2004 01:59 AM      Profile for Stephen Furley   Email Stephen Furley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Is ths wth new prints? If so, probably because they were priinted on a bi-drectional prnter, so that some reels were printed head to tail, and others tail to head.

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Tim Reed
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Prints assembled from the odd excursions of bi-directional printers, maybe? Either that, or they're just QC-ing every other reel.

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Chris Brown
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 - posted 12-25-2004 02:28 PM      Profile for Chris Brown   Author's Homepage   Email Chris Brown   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes it is with new prints. I'd never heard of a bi-directional printer, but it sounds like that would explain it. Thanks Stephen!

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Chase Hanson
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 - posted 12-26-2004 02:48 PM      Profile for Chase Hanson   Email Chase Hanson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have a hypothesis and it follows the same logic as film psuedo names.

If a print has mismatched reels ends, this causes a degree of frustration to persons who might benefit from cans that got "held over at the depot".

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 12-27-2004 01:51 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
With unidirectional and "loop" type printers, release prints are usually printed heads-to-tails. After processing, the reels are oriented heads out. If a print is inspected off-line without rewinding, the orientation of the inspected prints will change.

With a bi-directional panel printer, prints are made both heads-to-tails, or tails-to-heads. So reels will vary in orientation.

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