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Author Topic: Technicolor film can spacers Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-30-2004 01:23 PM                        It's nice that TES is now putting a spacer into the cans to compensate for the removal of the trailers. But what about the return shipment from that first playdate? The spacer does not get put in until the can is back at the depot, so the film could be damaged during that return trip. Since they are using plastic canisters as spacers, why not put the trailers INSIDE the plastic canister on the initial shipment? Along with a note reminding the projectionist to please return the canister of course. The same solution could work if they're using an empty reel, providing there aren't too many trailers in the initial shipment to fit around the core. (edited to fix a couple of spelling mastakes) [ 09-30-2004, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: Mike Blakesley ]  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 09-30-2004 01:27 PM                     I don't think that has been 100% implemented yet, but is in the works. It may take another month or two for it to make it's way down to second run as the films play. Still anything to keep the reels from banging around will not only protect the film, but keep the reels from getting damaged as well. It's more work for TES, but I think it's pretty obvious that these guys are really working overtime to make their service better.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 09-30-2004 04:38 PM                        Why don't the TCD folks go and visit the VFS depots TES bought quite a few years ago and see how they've been doing things right for many years?  |  IP: Logged Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-30-2004 11:57 PM                     Got this over the fax machine  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 10-31-2004 12:34 AM                    Easy and low cost solution is to sticker the items. Film Can Spacer...do not wind film on this reel...please return with print. Something similar for the plastic film tins. That would cure much of it. Daryl: What does VFS do?  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-31-2004 01:07 AM                        Another useful innovation in the process of being ruined by booth idiots (also known as non-Film-Techers). Wonder how long it will be before Technicolor just gives up on it? I hope that note helps, but am not holding my breath.  |  IP: Logged Chase Hanson Expert Film Handler Posts: 172 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Oct 2004 posted 10-31-2004 03:21 AM                     Wow Tech is actually doing something productive. Ill have to remember to be highly protective of their precisely folded cardboard.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 10-31-2004 09:22 AM                        This is a perfect use for all those reels that fall apart when you get the print. There has to be more than 55 of them per week. Use them for spacers.  |  IP: Logged Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: Boulder Creek, CA. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 10-31-2004 11:35 AM                     I havn't seen any of those film can spacers...However I did get the memo in the fax machine. It sure would be nice of ETS would do something. I'm actually dissapointed with their service over TES right now.  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 10-31-2004 12:03 PM                        I've not seen these spacers either. Maybe they aren't hitting first run full force yet? Brad, (or anyone else for that fact) Can you post an image of what these spacers look like for those of us who haven't seen one yet? Thanks!  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-31-2004 12:36 PM                        They are simply an empty reel OR a plastic film canister. I haven't seen a cardboard spacer since they announced this new program.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-31-2004 10:47 PM                     This is simply LAME. Why don't they depots (both TES and ETS) simply go back to the practice they did (and many indies still do) from the beginning of time until the early 90's: ship films in cans that fit all the reels without any blank space!!! Nothing pisses me off more than having an 8-reel print ship on 3 cans, when it easily would fit into 2 4-reelers! Before someone chimes in with 'But what about the enclosed trailers?!?', remember that back then trailers were shipped separately, and even TES to this day still ships bagfuls of trailers separate from prints all the time! ...just my .02 -Aaron  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-31-2004 11:28 PM                     Surely you know the answer, Aaron: that marketing people have found that trailers enclosed are more likely to play than trailers chasing or seperately shipped. And marketing controls pursestrings. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged John T. Hendrickson, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 889 From: Freehold, NJ, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-01-2004 06:36 PM                     Agreed, Aaron! Just fill the damned cans. ETS sometimes ships the trailers in a sealed envelope when the prints come in filled cans. This package accompanies the print, so it isn't likely that they would not be used. As yet, I too have not encountered spacers in TES cans. As far as trailers "chasing" the print, all too often they lose the race, as the pack is already completed by the time they arrive. When it comes to trailers "chasing", I often think of the old addage: "YOUR LACK OF PLANNING DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN EMERGENCY FOR ME."  |  IP: Logged Steve Scott Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1300 From: Minneapolis, MN Registered: Sep 2000 posted 11-01-2004 07:00 PM                     My guy who worked last night tore down our print of 'Cat in the Hat' and left the spacer reel on our bench and was going to send the print out, sans the extra protection. I think some operators are thinking, "Hey! Free reel!" So far, we've recieved three QC prints from technicolor. Two had empty black reels (the nice ones with the netal hubs), and one had a one-reel container (labeled for the UK release of 'Connie and Carla,' pretty cool actually).  |  IP: Logged

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